Right, so... someone posted about their buddies being 'deeply hurt' about all the antitheist posts he was making on Facebook. Like Catholic Priests aren't FB fodder enough? :)

So hey man..I can't find your thread cus I'm reaaaaaaaalllly drunk right now, but I wanted to share this with you:

I've been 'out of the closet' to all of my friends and most of my relatives for like three years now. For the most part, the dust has settled and we are all begrudgingly on speaking terms again. I am sort of growing out of my 'angry atheist' stage, where I felt the need to challenge everyone and everything that misrepresented logic. Part of it is because I'm growing desensitized. I think that's inevitable. The other bit of it is also because I'm just sort of...sick of it all. I am so desperately exhausted from the constant goddamned struggle. The same stupid fucking arguments...the same rehashed issues. It's tiring. 

So anyway, my latest approach is to kill 'em with kindness. 

I dunno honestly how it's working so far. The last few times I've tried it, the comments simply stopped. I guess it's a real conversation killer. 

Holy crap. I bet you didn't think it would be so awkward to just..acknowledge I exist, eh? 



So, one of my RP buddies (quit snickering. I've traveled the world teaching an extreme sport for a living. I am also a chick...and pretty damn cute. I can admit I'm a gamer. I make it look goooood.:) ) is a Xtrian extremist. I mean, this guy is like, a priest or something. Not Catholic, though. But he went to college to teach the Bible in some way. So he is always posting all this shit that sometimes I honestly believe is just for the benefit of his church friends. For the most part, I don't say much. But the other day, he posted this:


"To live for the Kingdom is to live behind enemy lines."


So of course, I'm all thinking, 'what a fucking douche bag. That's the sort of attitude that brought you...the Crusades! 9-11! Every-goddamned-religious-atrocity-known-to-mankind sort of bullshit. That 'us vs. them' attitude is why we have one asshole burning a bit of binding and paper and another few assholes inciting a mob of barbarians to behead innocent civilians. Ugg.. You are killing each other over your imaginary friends, you divisive fucks! Get OVER yourselves.'

But..I took a breath, and decided that sounding defensive (even rightfully so) would only further back up his Xtian friend's assumptions of me.


So I posted this, instead:


"Hey there. Not sure if you were just posting this as a quote you like or if you are simply feeling a "them vs. us" vibe today. Either way, I just wanted to let you know that you have friends of different faiths (and at least one with none at all) who care about you. You might feel a little like being behind enemy lines, ( I know I sure feel that way some days) but I hope you also realize you are surrounded by friends while you are there."



-Wow. Fucking awkward, huh? 

All conversation abruptly stopped after I posted that. Go figure. 





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Comment by IEatDinosaurMeat on April 27, 2011 at 10:39pm
That is freakin' awesome!!!
Comment by TeejMcS on April 27, 2011 at 11:08pm
Nice job on the response! I might have to borrow that, as I find myself in the same position sometimes.
Comment by Natalie on April 28, 2011 at 12:12am


I'll definitely have to try that some time if I'm looking to get out of an argument. I think they don't respond because they're either stumped by the intelligence level we have to counter their cute little quotes. I don;t think they can even begin to understand lol. ;D

Comment by Monica McGee (Monicks) on April 28, 2011 at 12:30am

One of the main reasons I deleted my Facebook account, the thank-god's, the bible references and the confrontational religious statuses. I didn't reply to those, but I can't describe how uncomfortable that made me feel. You know, wen you're really mad and you have to bite your tongue? (ad that's putting it mildly.)

Your response is perfect. You should be a diplomat, Misty. Great job.

Comment by BryanPaul on April 28, 2011 at 5:19am
Misty may be a good diplomat but she is a great B*tch!  I like her better that way. She is blunt, honest and to the point. She's one of my heroes on here. I'm cut from a ruff sort of cloth so subtilities go over my head sometimes and when they don't I just get pissed that people don't have the guts to speak plain and look me in the eyes.
Comment by IEatDinosaurMeat on April 28, 2011 at 6:13am
Monica, what's a good way to stop a bleeding tongue?
Comment by Brian Stewart on April 28, 2011 at 6:16am
Misty, I've had the same problem with religionists and arguing etc etc...it gets totally tiresome and they never learn anyway. I even wrote a book (Moses was a Liar) that tries to explain how these beliefs come about in a fictional setting (the sequel "Christians, Cannibals and Cannabis" is on its jolly way!). Now I too just look at them shake my head and often crack a joke: above all I try to be totally kind and caring...and it pisses them off! Atheists must be evil! Right? Well done with your reply.
Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on April 28, 2011 at 6:19am
Good one Misty. Most Christian’s think they deserve our respect because they have “faith”. This is because they consider it a blessing or a “grace” to have it. Therefore they assume a “holier than thou” attitude towards Atheists. Every now and then one of them shouts foul. This is usually just a meaningless sound bite to get some kudos from their friends or flock with a public display of their humility :-). The line about “living behind enemy lines” is a perfect example. I have found that you can get a xtian of their high horse by making non confrontational comments. This is also a good policy in debates. I remind myself of Bill Hick’s line when accosted by three menacing rednecks after a show where he made jokes about Jebus.

“"Hey buddy, we're Christians, we don't like what you said.” Hicks replied “Then forgive me”.

This attitude or one that expresses proper humility usually gets the Christian to snap out of their “woe betide and oh mercy me the Atheists are at it again” attitude. They suddenly become better……Christians and keep it zipped for a while – at least until the next moral outrage come along. Secretly I love to make them morally outraged, but don’t tell anyone.
Comment by Janet Richter on April 28, 2011 at 8:18pm

I do so especially love condescension, Jeremy.  "When a person is possessed they don't know they are being deceived."  That IS brilliant.  Why, then, did she not figure out that if she, like most Christians, says she is possessed by the Holy Spirit or possessed by God, she is the one being deceived?  Ah, well.

If I am possessed, I choose a fairy sprite or maybe a pooka, like Harvey the 6-foot, three and one half inch white rabbit.  Then I could have a brilliant friend like Elwood P Dowd.

Years ago my mother said to me, 'In this world, Elwood, you must be...
Mary Chase, Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart) in "Harvey", 1950
Comment by M on April 28, 2011 at 10:46pm

One attracts more flies with honey than vinegar, no?


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