DO YOU BELIEVE?
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Someone asked me today if I believe in God or not?
I did not answer as the person expected!
I questioned back, what God, which one?
The answer to my questions were…
"There is only one, just one God, Do you believe?" 
What if I don’t? I replayed…
“You must believe in something!”
 I do believe in a big bang…
I do believe in evolution…
I do believe en life…
And I know we will die!
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“Thousand Gods one sky!”
JCA.

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Comment by Kairan Nierde on September 28, 2013 at 10:08pm

*bang
*in

Comment by Nerdy Keith on September 29, 2013 at 4:08pm

I just tell them no. And if they start acting like an ass hole I'll tell them to f off

Comment by James Cox on September 29, 2013 at 6:55pm

Do I really have to 'believe' in the Big bang, Evolution, etc? What if I just consider them reasonable, or more reasonable explainations for life and existence? Knowing and honesty seem more important/superior to 'belief', but perfect knowing can be hard to come by. I am willing to stand facing the world around us with, at times, an honest uncertainty, and a deep hope that the human mind is up to the task of actual understanding. I face the mysteries that still remain with this 'belief' in a good that is the human mind, and that something still remains of an honest wonder.

Comment by SteveInCO on September 30, 2013 at 9:43am

James

Don't get too hung up on the word "believe."  I know it seems to connote a faith based phenomenon to many here, but it's simply the generic word for holding something to be true and the definition says nothing about it being in spite of a lack of evidence.  It's not the same as "to have faith in."

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/believe

If someone were to ask why one believes in the big bang and the answer had some element of faith in it, that would be problematic.

That having been said, the 'believe in a big bang' phrasing (as opposed to, e.g., "I believe the Big Bang happened") does sound a bit more religious to me than I'd like (and the dictionary confirms that--when the verb intransitive (and apparently using the "in" phrasing makes it so) the top definition for example the simple sentence "I believe." has a religious connotation), and I'd personally choose a different way of expressing it.  But it's not such a strong association to me that I'd condemn it, particularly when it's necessary to make the opposition plain and the text flow smoothly.

Comment by Unseen on September 30, 2013 at 3:29pm

This believing thing has become a hang-up for many atheists who feel if they admit that they believe there is no God, they're subject to the "Aha!, so you're a believer, too." There's nothing bad about believing something that's true, and that God doesn't exist seems to be true. 

If you say your'e sure God doesn't (or even can't) exist, but insist that you don't believe it, you're going to make a fool of yourself.

Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on September 30, 2013 at 7:12pm

Belief is accepting something on the basis of faith or someone's word of mouth. For example, in my extraterrestrial discussion. If people just accepted what I experienced by word of mouth/or text on the screen , that would be considered as belief. Now believing in the big bang, or evolution does not offer the opportunity to question or update and upgrade what is currently known , because people choose to believe and not understand. There is a difference. Understanding the big bang and evolution is where you step through the science on how it works, providing the detailed analysis for evolution, how it works, why it works, and comparing it to results of evidence provided by paleontology. Evolution theory is constantly updated with the discovery of new factual evidence. The big bang theory, what is it, you would have to understand it , not believe it.

I personally dont agree with the big bang theory, as observed from all things that exist in nature from the microverse to the macroverse of the universe ... things always work in cycle of re-use, from the re-use of atoms and electrons in chemistry to the recycling of stars of galaxies through the galactic center black hole. The same is for the universe... it is recycled, it is more logical than  the big bang theory to me.

Comment by Unseen on September 30, 2013 at 7:22pm

Belief is accepting something on the basis of faith or someone's word of mouth.

Whatever happened to believing something based on evidence or proof?

I personally dont agree with the big bang theory, as observed from all things that exist in nature from the microverse to the macroverse of the universe ... things always work in cycle of re-use, from the re-use of atoms and electrons in chemistry to the recycling of stars of galaxies through the galactic center black hole. The same is for the universe... it is recycled, it is more logical than  the big bang theory to me.

I'm sure the cosmologists are interested in why you "disagree" with the big bang. 

Their evidence is that everything is moving away from everything, as debris away from an explosion. As for recycling, no. The universe is gradually coming apart, moving in the direction of chaos and entropy. So much for the cycles you believe in based on faith or word of mouth.

Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on September 30, 2013 at 7:36pm

Well you may choose to believe something, I dont... I rather understand it and think about it if I agree to it or not and why if it makes any sense.

Nope it is observation such as the image above, the motion of galaxies

Belief is accepting something without thinking and questioning it on the basis of faith... I dont do that.

Comment by Unseen on September 30, 2013 at 7:48pm

Belief is accepting something without thinking and questioning it on the basis of faith... I dont do that.

One can also believe something based on evidence and proof. What you're doing is proposing a definition and then knocking it down, but it's just one definition of belief, and not the one which is relevant to science and general understanding.

I deconstructed your notion of cycles and you haven't really replied to that, I see.

Comment by Unseen on October 1, 2013 at 6:59pm

For  ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp, here is the history of the univese presented in a graphic:

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