Why did an all-powerful, all-knowing being create an ETERNAL TORTURE CHAMBER and fill it with MOST of his creation? Was that THE PLAN?

If that wasn't the plan....it raises the more worrying question (for theists).. Did God's Plan go wrong?

Why did he create a universe where he had to kill himself to save a tiny portion of it?

What is this ultimate purpose for our existence that theists are always rambling on about in their arguments for an intelligent designer and a benevolent creator?

They say that atheism equates to a purposeless existence. (which is balderdash) What is the Ultimate Purpose' of creating an eternal torture chamber for MOST of your creation? How is it better? How is it not 'infinately worse? What great truths and spiritual wisdom are gleaned from this?

The criteria of salvation is simple... to admit out sinful and worthless nature and to accept the forgiveness and grace of god...... yet that simple salvation is withdrawn to folks who don't make it during this physical lifetime. How come? Why make the universe that way? What ultimate purpose is there in this acceptance? What great spiritual wisdom and truths are gleaned from this? How are these folks that much more worthy of an eternity of peace than those for whatever reason did not or could not do this? The bigger question.. How are these folks that didn't make it worthy of an eternity of torture, suffering and pain?

Why couldn't an all-powerful, all-knowing being have created a universe of rehabilitation where we LEARN from our mistakes, where growth and knowledge didn't stop with the end of our eye-blink of a physical existence but could continue on forever? Why eternally lock the door between heaven and hell to those who didn't make it during such a brief existence on earth?

Whats the ultimate purpose for an eternity of suffering and pain? If the souls in hell can't ever learn or grow whats the ultimate point?

Just a few questions for the christian theist.

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Comment by willailla on August 15, 2010 at 3:36pm
Because there isno god.
Comment by Mario Rodgers on August 15, 2010 at 3:41pm
I thought of a plan better than God YEARS ago. In it, reincarnation made more sense to me than God's idea of hell.

I didn't realize until later what I was doing was essentially hybridizing Christianity, which is a big no no.

Reincarnation is still a fascinating subject with me though.
Comment by Jaume on August 15, 2010 at 4:40pm
Listen, son. My plan didn't go wrong. At least, it didn't go wrong yet. But I made a bet with my old pal Moe - who, as I've been told, is known to you as Satan and other funky names. Moe didn't believe I could create a species as fucked up as yours, that could survive civilization for ten thousands years. You still have a couple centuries to go. So don't fail me, or I'll lose the bet and have to kiss Moe's ass. You don't want your creator to kiss the Devil's ass, do you?
Comment by Wesley on August 15, 2010 at 5:21pm
Theists almost always say that they can't imagine living a life without some 'ultimate purpose' behind it... Yet ironically ALL OF THEM live their lives ignorant of that purpose.

This post grew out of that. When we start to examine the possibilities of what that 'ultimate purpose' might be and weigh it against what our religions tell us...then some interesting questions come up.
Comment by Wesley on August 15, 2010 at 5:37pm
Mario,,, Have you read the book Reincarnation, the pheonix fire mystery? http://www.amazon.com/Reincarnation-East-West-Dialogue-Psychology-P...

Though my belief in reincarnation went the same way as my theism...this is still a good book on the subject.
Comment by Mario Rodgers on August 15, 2010 at 7:14pm
My stance on reincarnation is this: If existence is consciousness, and consciousness stems from the brain and is merely one highly complex electrical and chemical pattern, what are the odds the same pattern, and thus the same "being" can be repeated later on in a different life, world, or even universe? I think this is more in line with a Buddhist thinking rather than Hindu, which requires a belief in an immortal soul.


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