Creationists make me want to smoke crack.

I don't know why I talk to religious people anymore when they ask me about what I believe. I invariably end up frustrated. I'm frustrated.

Maybe it's just the nature of two opposing opinions converging that they will ultimately slip into defensive and combative positions. I'm just tired of being 'reached out to' by theists who insist they are only curious about atheism and want to ask me some questions who end up arguing with me about atheism instead of actually listening to what I have to say.

You know, that curiosity they claimed was the reason we began to talk in the first place? Oh - never existed. Just an excuse to get my guard down. Awesome. We call that lyin' fer Jesus 'round these parts and it's really unattractive.

I admit it, man, I'm gullible. I want to believe that people are, for the most part, good intentioned and when someone says they're curious they are most likely curious. It makes sense - I'm curious about things too.

And maybe I'm right, maybe most people DO have good intentions and the tragedy is that one person's good intention is another person's insult. Maybe for some people good intentions justify deceit. But at one point are those people justifying deceit to themselves as good intentions in order to give themselves an excuse to be a liar?

Anyway, I'll keep talking to the theists that come my way. I'm frustrated right now because it's frustrating when you feel you've been deceived. It's especially frustrating when the person who deceived you will most likely never understand why what they did was in any way deceitful.

Maybe I'm just too sensitive.

Regardless, I'll still talk to theists because I feel like curiosity in any form may be a budding promise of critical thought. While I don't really concern myself with other people's beliefs too much, I'd like to think if someone by chance did reach out to me that I was at least compassionate enough of a person to answer their questions and give them a few minutes of my life. In order to keep myself open for that, I'll have to suffer through what a doped up Bart Simpson would categorize as 'time burglars.'

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Comment by Trevauhn Grant on February 11, 2010 at 6:39am
Wow...that was very well written. I certainly wish I could write like you. I'm an aspiring Christian author. And thank you for putting up with little old theists like myself, we appreciate it. And I'm not at all being sarcastic. I do tend to learn allot speaking with atheists. So thank you from the bottom of my titty bitty theist heart.
Comment by Pinko Commie on February 11, 2010 at 3:49pm
I don't have any interest in talking to proselytizing Christians either. I don't know of many people on earth who are patient enough to willingly engage in conversations in which everything they have to say is going to be completely ignored.

If anyone strikes up a conversation with me because they're curious about something and they think I may be able to answer a question, I'll always be open to that. It frustrates me, however, when it becomes obvious that the person who engaged me in conversation was disingenuous about being curious in the first place in order to proselytize. It's a waste of time and makes me feel like an idiot for even trying.
Comment by Shine on February 11, 2010 at 8:44pm
It seems that whenever someone prefaces a statement with, "Now, I'm just curious, but..." the result is invariably something moronic derived from their unsubstantiated, uncompromising belief system. This feigned curiosity seems more like a rhetorical device than any actual sentiment of genuine wonder. A person has to admit that they do not know everything in order to actually be curious, and I really never see theists who can sincerely admit that they--and all of mankind--are ignorant about so much of the universe.
Comment by Trevauhn Grant on February 12, 2010 at 2:02am
I've read over all the comments and I realize one important thing about all the atheists present here. You don't understand a think about Christians. Not ONE THING!!! Gospel of Matthew 26 gives the commission of Jesus Christ to all who follow him. It says go into all the world, baptize in the name of Jesus, teach, preach the Kingdom of God. A Christian has no other reason for living other than to do what Jesus says. So if you don't want to hear it, then don't talk to a Christian period. Don't do me any favors. For us, it's like seeing a good friend get run over by a car in the street. Simply can't help but warn that friend. Hence, I simply can't help but want to share the message of Jesus Christ. I read so much of the bible, it's hard not to say anything.
Comment by Trevauhn Grant on February 12, 2010 at 2:14am
I even see Atheists present who say they read the bible, but really don't understand it. I saw one guy giving their understanding of Genesis 2, a Christian would read that and think, he's got it all wrong. Then that Christian would proceed to enlightening that guy about the actually meaning of the text. The bible is thousands of years old, what makes you think you can simply read it at face value and get the full meat of it. You have a hard time reading Shakespeare which is only a few hundred years old, much less reading the bible which is a few thousand. Atheists, please get a clue.
Comment by Pinko Commie on February 12, 2010 at 2:15am
When you resort to capslock typing with gratuitous exclamation points, it doesn't make your illogical claims any more factual.
Comment by Trevauhn Grant on February 12, 2010 at 2:16am
So thanks for being patient, we theists will continue to do the same.
Comment by Pinko Commie on February 12, 2010 at 2:20am
I respect the Bible just as much as I respect Homer's Odyssey or any other ancient mythology. I would be just as annoyed if someone lied to me about wanting to have a conversation so that they could tell me the god news about Zeus.
Comment by Shine on February 12, 2010 at 7:31am
You have a hard time reading Shakespeare which is only a few hundred years old, much less reading the bible which is a few thousand. Atheists, please get a clue.

Trevaughn, it is Interesting that you compare your holy book to dramatic fiction from the late sixteenth and early seventeenth centuries. I fully support this comparison, as the Bible truly is nothing more than archaic fiction. Indeed, the characters and plot lines in the Bible do present classic archetypes and traditional allegories as well as any Renaissance playwright does. However, I find it an insult to Shakespeare's artistic literary genius to degrade his brilliantly crafted similes and metaphors to the menial esotericism of Biblical texts; the former is the intentioned result of a skilled writer, while the later is simply a product of time and repeated translations.

Also, you entire argument seems to be based upon atheists' supposed misinterpretation of the Bible. Isn't it odd that God would deliver his sacred message in a text so ambiguous that it requires "enlightened" reading? What constitutes this enlightened reading? Who are you to say that I am not an enlightened reader? Are enlightened readers only the people who arrive at the same conclusion as you?

In the end, it sounds like your reading of the Bible is due to nothing more than a terrible set of subjective, religious footnotes.
Comment by Shine on February 12, 2010 at 7:51am
One more point, Trevaughn: while you accuse atheists of misinterpreting Biblical texts, it appears that your reading comprehension is severely lacking. Pinko's original blog post was about theists who pretend to be genuinely curious in order to hook the atheist in conversation; the pretense of a meaningful exchange is quickly dropped as the theist exposes their true intention to proselytize. It is this falsity and blatant insincerity that was the topic, not the supposed need of Christians to "spread the word."

Then again, I am not a very enlightened reader; perhaps this is all over my head!


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