Comment by RobertPiano on November 25, 2012 at 3:00pm

"You have to dig deep in the quran to understand". I think I did. Moreover, the deeper you go in the quran, the more you will realize that there is nothing holy about it. You will realize that it is just the ideas, fiction and a collection of pre-historic stories by a man, or several but started with a man, that just wanted fame and power.

I have similar issues with the bible, but more importantly; If you look into the contributions that Arabic or Persians have made to science; it is mind blowing.

Arab scholars even theorized about evolution, arriving at conclusions that anticipated Darwin. In 1377, nearly half a millennium before the 1859 publication of On the Origin of Species, the Tunisian-born historiographer Ibn Khaldun, renowned as one of the founders of sociology, asserted in Al-Muqaddimah (Prolegomena), “The animal kingdom was developed, its species multiplied, and in the gradual process of Creation, it ended in man & arising from the world of the monkeys.”

http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200703/rediscovering.arabic.s...

It saddens me to see what happened to Arabic Secularism. IMHO, the west is largely to blame.

Comment by Aiken Drums Sister on November 26, 2012 at 5:57am

I don't know anything about the Quran, but I do have a friend that actually thought that men had one less ribs than women because that missing rib was what god made women out of.  When several medical friends (a doctor, 2 nurses, even a chiropractor) explained that men and women have the same number of ribs, she lost her mind... until she rationalized that god replaced Adam's missing rib, so all is well in her noggin!

So to answer your question, women were created from ribs that were replaced by other, newer ribs, much like first wives are replaced by second (trophy) wives.

Comment by mohammed ibrahim on November 26, 2012 at 1:03pm

@RobertoPiano There might some truth to the claim that Arabs were discoverers and inventors but that was before islam's curroption of their reason. A lot of the scientists are actually persian but came to the land not really arabs. If you want to read the history of arabs don't read it from Arabic websites, they are good at fabricating history.

Comment by mohammed ibrahim on November 26, 2012 at 1:07pm

@Aiken Drums Sister oh trust me that's not the only absolute craziness they believe. They believe in far worst crazy. It wasn't really a question, just a title for the article. :)

Comment by RobertPiano on November 26, 2012 at 8:54pm

@mohammed, Thank you that is a good point. As an engineering student (80's) I met so many Arab and Persian students, we helped each other in studies. Religion was never discussed, and I never saw them bow to Mecca. I wonder if they were even religious.

Comment by mohammed ibrahim on November 26, 2012 at 9:48pm

@RobertPiano If they are secular. They probably weren't religious. It helps when you are growing up in a secular state or they were just doing their rituals when you weren't around. They don't have a time constraint.

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