You aren't? Why, what is the problem. You believe in a fairy tale world utterly lacking in foundation and yet you are opposed to speculation?


This definition is demonstrably false and yet it is adduced at the drop of a deuce as though its wisdom is beyond criticism.


Another sickening saw. The proponents are not indicating that cause and effect is the way of the universe. Instead they are suggesting that their lives have meaning and direction beyond what is evident. And one can only assume that said reason is known/guided by the almighty.


When was it great? What is different about the present? Do all of the national shames of that era mitigate against the greatness (presumably economic prosperity or imperialism) of the suggested era? Why hasn't anybody asked Trump these obvious questions?

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Comment by Jake LaFort on April 2, 2016 at 9:59pm

That is the scene of which i speak.

Comment by Pope Beanie on April 2, 2016 at 10:59pm

Straight to the brainstem, no danish, and do not collect $200. We're beyond schoolyard grudges, now.

Comment by Unseen on April 4, 2016 at 1:18pm

Trump is making America grate again. 

Comment by Pope Beanie on April 4, 2016 at 2:46pm

Excellent! I thought of that a couple of weeks ago but didn't act on it.

Comment by Jake LaFort on April 4, 2016 at 4:58pm

nice parody...funny stuff here in parody of Trump and Sanders

Comment by Unseen on April 5, 2016 at 1:22am

@Belle - Of course some things happen for a reason (are intended). But not everything is the result of someone's or some thing's intention. If a jellyfish washes up on a beach, it's not something anyone or any thing intended. It just happened. Most things that happen are that way. They just happen.

Comment by Pope Beanie on April 5, 2016 at 3:29pm

I get the feeling sometimes that something has happened "for a reason". I don't remember that reason ever feel like it was something supernatural or God, although the thought of it obviously comes to mind at least because it's societal meme, if nothing else. I don't fight, because I don't have to fight it, because I'm rational enough to know it's just a feeling. But I don't like to deny the feeling! Like dreams, I think the better I understand what I'm feeling or dreaming, the better I'll understand myself... and in fact the better I'll understand the world, because we evolved the way we evolved in order to deal with the world and survive. (Like, even evolution happened "for a reason", but I swear, no agency in charge and nothing supernatural ever comes out in my mind as the cause!)

Seriously, I don't fight some of the feelings that a lot of atheists fight or have fought and overcome, because most of those feelings are natural and come with the territory of being a human, and (most of all) being an animal. Sure, we use intellect to overcome some of those basic instincts so that we can plan futures better, but too much intellect can also negatively affect perceptions, and lead to all kinds of gullibility, superstition, and embellished myth. There is a balance here that seems (to me) most people don't know how best to achieve. (Meanwhile, I am still learning, too.)

Back on theme, "conventional wisdom" of any kind is often flawed. Remain skeptical!

Comment by Jake LaFort on April 5, 2016 at 5:16pm

Pope, i never get that "for a reason" feeling. On the contrary i get the feeling civilization is a suspension of reality in which we humans go about our oft-times busy lives filled with sound, fury and drama and signifying less than nothing. It is a big fucking charade. 

I see the for a reason meme as offering up salve for the psyche after something has gone terribly wrong. Ya did not get the job you wanted. The guy you are crushing on rejected you. Your application to be admitted at Harvard is on hold. And you say to yourself everything happens for a reason. It wasn't supposed to be. And it makes you feel better if only a tiny bit. But in doing so you are lying to yourself. And you are not thinking rationally. And if things happen for a reason then the reason-maker is a piece of inhuman shit for fucking up human affairs so unspeakably.

Comment by _Robert_ on April 5, 2016 at 8:10pm

Things "that happen" to humans or any biologic always occur as normal distributions, with the outliers beyond six sigma being usually attributed to fuckin miracles or incredibly bad luck. It's all generally predictable based on historical data. This is how insurance and drug companies and even clothing manufactures make decisions. We seem to be able to move around the bell curve to a degree. If you don't want to become road pizza, sell the bike. If you wanna ride, well the odds go way up. So are there reasons. Yes of course, It isn't a god.


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