Well, the good thing is that my husband and I have been married for 6 years and we don't throw shit and scream at each other ;o). Today he felt the need to remind me of how good god is. I chose to ask him if he was talking about the same god that allows billions of his christians to suffer from diabetes, cancer and all kinds of diseases after he promised you guys he would heal you? I told him I dont believe or want to even acknowledeg a god like that.If his god is so real why doesn't he heal his high blood pressure? My husband walked out and said he needed to think. This is probably going to get real difficult.

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Comment by Perthy on September 12, 2010 at 6:04pm
I hope he's thinking about his beliefs. I have to say, coming from a very devout family, my arguments to them never work. Religion is now a topic that is taboo with them. They don't want to even consider that they (or god) might be wrong. They don't want to examine religion that closely, because religion breeds fear of questions (doubting).

Good luck. I hope he is a rational, level-headed thinker.
Comment by rationalrevolution on September 12, 2010 at 6:53pm
Well, but Christian theology has answers for all of these issues. I don't think they are good answers, but its all been addressed before. There is nothing in Christian theology that says that life on earth is supposed to be free of suffering, the whole basis of the religion is the idea that the material world is corrupt because of original sin, and that a perfect world will only exist after the second coming, when the "true believers" will be taken up to the new perfect world created by Jesus (which of course at the time of the writing of the New Testament works everyone was sure was going to happen any day now, and of course every generation of Christians since has thought the same thing....)

Now of course this all sounds like crazy nonsense, because of course it is...
Comment by Reggie on September 13, 2010 at 2:25am
Doone wins.

I have nothing to add other than that. I lucked out and married an atheist.
Comment by Fancy Nancy on September 13, 2010 at 8:37am
Michelle ... maybe just agree to differ and save your arguments for something real!
Comment by DrDee on September 13, 2010 at 9:41am
You have the patience of Job, that wonderful propaganda piece from the OT. Seriously, hopefully he us examining the reality of the world. This weekend in Dallas there were big doings at several churches regarding spiritual warfare. To me that tells me that "Satan" is every bit as powerful as Yaweh because they're still fighting. It even god status to Satan otherwise, it would seem omnipotent god could end this invisible war with the metaphorical blink of an eye. So, why does the pain and suffering continue? Is the omnibenevolent god not good as his world or god can't stop it meaning that he isn't all-powerful. He has a lot to think on because as far as I know even the best Christian apologists can't adequately address theodicy.
Comment by DrDee on September 13, 2010 at 9:42am
Sorry for the typos!
Comment by Michael Sizer-Watt on September 13, 2010 at 12:09pm
Yes, the patience of Job indeed as was mentioned earlier. I like the way Peter Singer puts it: "I can't revere the christian god and have any integrity, since I condemn acts that cause suffering". There's no need to argue beyond that IMO. If god is all powerful, he can end suffering, or at least distribute it fairly. He doesn't. Therefore, he's an ass.
Comment by Michael Sizer-Watt on September 13, 2010 at 12:11pm
Sorry, to that though, I do sympathize - it must be hard, and I wish you didn't have to deal with it. Sorry if I seemed insensitive. M.
Comment by Perthy on September 13, 2010 at 12:23pm
I agree whole-heartedly with Kelly. There is actually an entire website devoted to that first question - it helps clarify things, and if your husband ever seems receptive, why don't you have him look at it? Or better yet, just leave it up on the computer.

Comment by Jon Heim on September 18, 2010 at 4:40am
I know he was being manipulative and conniving....maybe it's just better that you don't talk about religion what so ever with him though. I mean..if you love the guy and want to stay together. if not..hey, I'm hoping for your sake you will find a nice atheist. lol


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