Christian “Logic” and “Morality”

Just when I thought I’d heard it all, one of the Christies drops this little gem on me. In discussing the super happy fun times associated with Lot and his daughters, I got this reply:

 

“Lot wasn't a Xian because Christ wasn't born yet. Therefore, not Xian morality.”

 

So, it would seem that she is claiming that anything that happened before the birth of Christ cannot be associated with the moral structure of their religion. This one is new to me.

I’d love to hear your thoughts, comments and astute observations addressing this issue of selective morality.

 

P.S. the discussion was specifically addressing the issue of incest and god’s apparent acceptance of it.  

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Comment by Robert Karp on October 25, 2011 at 9:34am

Hmmm, sooo that means the all knowing, all omnipotent, all around good guy god was just f-ing with the people when he gave them the old testament. Almost as a joke. "I didn't really want you to kill and rape women and children, I was kidding!!! Now here are my real laws"  Or did he just learn what morality was? Which means he is neither all knowing or omnipotent. Also let's not forget the warm and fuzziness of the new testie, you know, the whole hell thing and how we must scare our kids into fearing such a place. SOOooooo morality? Meh. Who cares. Xian or not, yaweh is as about an immoral god as you can get.

Comment by Alyson Mitchell on October 25, 2011 at 10:55am

Christian morality - Steal a horse, be executed, start a religion. 

 

Luke 19-22

Comment by Alyson Mitchell on October 25, 2011 at 10:57am

Of course, if we have to negate the Old Testament as a set of morality laws, we've instantly taken care of LGBTQ issues, abortion, genocide, and slavery. 

 

Women still have to shut up in church, though. 

Comment by Steve on October 25, 2011 at 11:25am

Christian hospitals and universities made sense in the middle ages when the church was basically the only organization to provide these services. There were almost no public schools or health care, so they provided something very vital.

 

Today, their sole purpose is indoctrination and proselytizing. Nothing else. They are also largely state funded while being exempt from anti-discrimination laws. Both education and health care can easily be provided by secular organizations these days and much better at that too

Comment by Robert Karp on October 25, 2011 at 12:58pm

Hope you don't mind. made a rage comic about it.

Comment by Nate on October 25, 2011 at 1:01pm

@Robert LMFAO

Comment by Rick on October 25, 2011 at 8:44pm

ROBERT, FTW!!!!

Comment by Jim Minion on October 25, 2011 at 11:59pm

I always find it interesting that xians have read read or examined the NT, as you read and compare the gospels and the writings of Paul, they all took OT stories and incorporated into godifying (made this word up) of jesus.

It was Paul (the first Ted Haggard, Pat Robertson, Peter Popoff) that gave xians the idea they could forget the OT when jesus said you must follow the OT law, not change forget any of it. Paul was out growing the flock so getting rid of the OT rules and telling gentiles they didn't need to be circumcised was a hit. Maybe they should have called it Paulinity instead of xianity.

Comment by Dustin on October 26, 2011 at 12:35am

am I the only one who kind of thinks the answer makes sense?  I mean, if Christ hadn't appeared yet to tell people 'those without sin cast the first stone' ...

 

Oh wait, that passage was added by scribes until centuries later.  Nevermind.  

Comment by Al Zinin on October 26, 2011 at 4:07am

according to some fundamental xtians the bible says that Jesus was before the creation. = he knew what was going on during Lot times.

I would be careful with ppl who base their morality on myths collection that could be interpreted very differently by each reader; that is in many points diverges with common sense.

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