I honestly could not care less what you believe.  If you want to assert that loving a person of the same sex as yourself damns you to a fiery abyss for all of eternity, thats your choice.  Similarly, if you believe that rape is "God's Will", and that any child which is conceived from this event deserves a right to live, no matter what the age or mental state of the mother may be, that is entirely your choice, and I'm glad you have that choice.  The ability and time to make and have our own unique thoughts is what seperates us (in most countries) from other not so fortunate peoples born in impoverished and underdeveloped places, who's most important decision of their day has nothing to do with which football or baseball team to watch this weekend.

However, when you decide that your own belief about the inherit rights some groups have over others holds bearing, that is when we, as a society, need to reevaluate what we find important in our lives, and our necessary level of (slack)tivism in the human rights realm.

I recently and unfortunately entered into a "discussion", in which the topic presenter stated that they were "tired" of hearing about the Chick-Fil-A debacle, and didnt understand why "liberals" were making such a big deal out of it.  He went on to say that while he agrees with gay marriage and gay rights, he believes that the founders are permitted to have any view they believe in, citing 1st Amendment rights.  The presenter went on to say that he will continue to eat at Chick-Fil-A, as their food is "fucking delicious".  After his speech, I pointlessly attempted to explain that the issue is not their beliefs, which they are entitled to have, but that they have donated money to hate groups actively seeking to inhibit the rights of others.  I also suggested that if Chick-Fil-A were funding the KKK, many more people would feel obligated to take notice, as being racist is somehow much more frowned upon than being homophobic.  He then went on to say that it is still their choice to do whatever they wish with their money they have earned through private enterprise, which I acknowledged as being the case, but also then asked why, if he supported gay rights, was he still willing to fund a corporation that would ultimately use his money to fund hate?  After this I was barraged by a steady stream of insults unrelated to the topic at hand, and realized the "discussion" was more or less over.

My question is this, why are people "tired" of hearing about human rights, but still so interested in things like football, baseball, celebrities, etc?  I have never heard someone say they were "tired" of hearing about the incessant and relentless changes of baseball rosters prior to and during the season, but when actual human inequitys are concerned, it seems to be in vogue to be "too cool" to care.  I dont believe people are truly like this;  I want to believe that humans are intelligent at their core, and will seek to help before they turn a blind eye.  Why then is this happening? What is at the root of all this callousness and laziness?

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Comment by John Kelly on July 31, 2012 at 3:22pm

Anastasia, I think you will find your answers in Kohlberg's studies on human moral development.  Many humans simply do not develop to the level where they ought.  Most do not independently consider morals, but rather go with herd mentality.  If you find the largest herd has a different moral standard, then you are either in another herd, or are morally developed beyond the norm.

Comment by John Kelly on July 31, 2012 at 3:22pm

I should say "appears to plain common sense that they ought"

Comment by Anastasia Collins on July 31, 2012 at 3:41pm

I had studied Kohlberg in college, but was under the impression that there was a natural progression with age and experience that resulted in higher moral development.  I think you're right in saying that humans are not developing to the level they would be expected to, and I think its a lack of any real-life experieneces which results from our dependence on media and that "herd mentality" to make all of our decisions. Its just sad that it breeds apathy instead of understanding.   

Thank you for your response

Comment by John Kelly on July 31, 2012 at 4:36pm

You are right that there is a natural progression, and in The Development of Children’s Orientations Toward a Moral Order, Kohlberg is applying Piaget's development stages to moral development. But Piaget's stages don't correspond. What the research shows is that not many people develop into what is called the "Postconventional Level".

Most remain developmentally at stage 4 of the conventional level which concerns social rules and laws. What you are wanting people to have is stage 6 morality which Kohlberg calls "Morality of individual principles of
conscience." Sadly for mankind, most do not get to that point and they cause a lot of trouble.

Comment by Tom Holm on July 31, 2012 at 4:36pm

Im tired of hearing about sports and celeberties and who is dating who. I want to hear about real world issues for once, and not which country is going to win the most medals this year in the olympics. All that is irrelevant to me. And as far as that chicken restaurant is concerned, i could care less about 2 pieces of chicken on a dry bun, and with no cheese? soggy ass pickels? trash waffle fries? but the milkshake is good though. Anyway the president should not have spoken out for the restaurant, though he does have the right to say what he wants though it will hurt the restaurant as a whole in the long run.

Comment by Anastasia Collins on July 31, 2012 at 4:50pm

I know what you mean about wanting real news, apparently 94% of Greenland melted away this past June, where was the news coverage on that one?

I hope that Chick-Fil-A will at least rethink where they donate their money.  They had kept it a secret for many years too, guess they realized it wasnt too popular of a decision.

Comment by John Kelly on July 31, 2012 at 5:02pm

I hope they go under honestly. I hope they weren't prepared for the backlash and profit suffers greatly as a result leading to overstretched resources.

Comment by Anastasia Collins on July 31, 2012 at 5:08pm

I really hope so as well.  There's no place for a corporation like that when we are currently deeply entrenched in the war for equal rights.  Though I've seen a lot of people with the apathetic response I've mentioned, I also know many people (myself included obviously), who have boycotted since there were first rumors of Chick-Fil-A's financial support of these groups months ago.

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