Can an atheist be a fundamentalist?

by AC Grayling

It is time to put to rest the mistakes and assumptions that lie behind a phrase used by some religious people when talking of those who are plain-spoken about their disbelief in any religious claims: the phrase "fundamentalist atheist". What would a non-fundamentalist atheist be? Would he be someone who believed only somewhat that there are no supernatural entities in the universe - perhaps that there is only part of a god (a divine foot, say, or buttock)? Or that gods exist only some of the time - say, Wednesdays and Saturdays? (That would not be so strange: for many unthinking quasi-theists, a god exists only on Sundays.) Or might it be that a non-fundamentalist atheist is one who does not mind that other people hold profoundly false and primitive beliefs about the universe, on the basis of which they have spent centuries mass-murdering other people who do not hold exactly the same false and primitive beliefs as themselves - and still do?

Christians, among other things, mean by "fundamentalist atheists" those who would deny people the comforts of faith (the old and lonely especially) and the companionship of a benign invisible protector in the dark night of the soul - and who (allegedly) fail to see the staggering beauty in art prompted by the inspirations of belief. Yet, in its bleeding-heart modern form, Christianity is a recent and highly modified version of what, for most of its history, has been an often violent and always oppressive ideology - think Crusades, torture, burnings at the stake, the enslavement of women to constantly repeated childbirth and undivorceable husbands, the warping of human sexuality, the use of fear (of hell's torments) as an instrument of control, and the horrific results of calumny against Judaism. Nowadays, by contrast, Christianity specialises in soft-focus mood music; its threats of hell, its demand for poverty and chastity, its doctrine that only the few will be saved and the many damned, have been shed, replaced by strummed guitars and saccharine smiles. It has reinvented itself so often, and with such breathtaking hypocrisy, in the interests of retaining its hold on the gullible, that a medieval monk who woke today, like Woody Allen's Sleeper, would not be able to recognise the faith that bears the same name as his own.

For example: vast Nigerian congregations are told that believing will ensure a high income - indeed they are told by Reverend X that they will be luckier and richer if they join his congregation than if they join that of Reverend Y. What happened to the eye of the needle? Oh well, granted: that tiny loophole was closed long ago. What then of "my kingdom is not of this world"? What of the blessedness of poverty and humility? The Church of England officially abolished Hell by an Act of Synod in the 1920s and St Paul's strictures on the place of women in church (which was that they are to sit at the back in silence, with heads covered) are now so far ignored that there are now women vicars, and there will soon be women bishops.

One does not have to venture as far as Nigeria to see the hypocrisies of reinvention at work. Rome will do, where the latest eternal verity to be abandoned is the doctrine of limbo - the place where the souls of unbaptised babies go. Meanwhile, some cardinals are floating the idea that condoms are acceptable, within marital relationships only of course, in countries with high incidences of HIV infection. This latter, which to anyone but an observant Catholic is not merely a plain piece of common sense but a humanitarian imperative, is an amazing development in its context. Sensible Catholics have for generations been ignoring the views on contraception held by reactionary old men in the Vatican, but alas, since it is the business of all religious doctrines to keep their votaries in a state of intellectual infancy (how else do they keep absurdities seeming credible?), insufficient numbers of Catholics have been able to be sensible. Look at Ireland until very recent times for an example of the misery Catholicism inflicts when it can.

"Intellectual infancy": the phrase reminds one that religions survive mainly because they brainwash the young. Three-quarters of Church of England schools are primary schools; all the faiths currently jostling for our tax money to run their "faith-based" schools know that if they do not proselytise intellectually defenceless three and four-year-olds, their grip will eventually loosen. Inculcating the various competing - competing, note - falsehoods of the major faiths into small children is a form of child abuse, and a scandal. Let us challenge religion to leave children alone until they are adults, whereupon they can be presented with the essentials of religion for mature consideration. For example: tell an averagely intelligent adult hitherto free of religious brainwashing that somewhere, invisibly, there is a being somewhat like us, with desires, interests, purposes, memories, and emotions of anger, love, vengefulness and jealousy, yet with the negation of such other of our failings as mortality, weakness, corporeality, visibility, limited knowledge and insight; and that this god magically impregnates a mortal woman, who then gives birth to a special being who performs various prodigious feats before departing for heaven. Take your pick of which version of this story to tell: let a King of Heaven impregnate - let's see - Danae or Io or Leda or the Virgin Mary (etc, etc) and let there be resulting heaven-destined progeny (Heracles, Castor and Pollux, Jesus, etc, etc) - or any of the other forms of exactly such tales in Babylonian, Egyptian and other mythologies - then ask which of them he wishes to believe. One can guarantee that such a person would say: none of them.

Read the rest on AC Grayling's website.

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Tags: atheism, christianity, fundamentalism, religion

Comment by Terrence McDonnell on March 15, 2011 at 6:07pm
What is the loophole with the 'eye of the needle'? Perhaps another passage? or reference to something else? Or an argument made from outside of the Bible?
Comment by Dallas the Phallus on March 15, 2011 at 6:15pm

@ Terrence: I'm sure he means the passage that "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven," or however it goes.

 

When he writes "Oh well, granted: that tiny loophole was closed long ago," well, I think he means they've just revised or ignored that passage. That's how I would take it.

Comment by Terrence McDonnell on March 15, 2011 at 6:30pm
The reason I ask is because once upon a time I had heard an argument from a religious person that the "eye of the needle" in question is actually a structure found in the middle of town named in the Bible (I can't recall which one). Although this isn't specified in the Bible, the argument apparently comes from historical findings in the area in reference to that structure from outside the Bible. I can't quite remember the exact reasoning, but this fact alone was able to allow this passage to be dismissed (You can already see that this reasoning is already really fuzzy...).

I was merely wondering if there was any weight to that specific argument and was wondering if that was possibly what it was referring to (Although, this wouldn't change the meaning of the passage very much, merely gives it a slightly different context).
Comment by Dallas the Phallus on March 15, 2011 at 6:33pm

Hmm...it was probably just BS, I'd imagine. If it was the arch to the city, that would hardly be an extraordinary feat. Lol!

 

I would dismiss them all, anyhow.

Comment by Lindsey on March 15, 2011 at 8:34pm
There's no such thing as an "atheist fundamentalist" because atheism isn't a set of beliefs with rules, scriptures, or myths like religions have. What makes a christian or muslim fundamentalist a fundamentalist is that they have a literal interpretation of and strict adherence to their faith's scriptures.  The only thing that makes a person an atheist is a lack of belief in any deities. It doesn't even necessarily have to exclude the supernatural. What they really mean by "atheist fundamentalist" is a person who doesn't roll over and let them jam their religion in his or her face, and isn't willing to tolerate logical fallacies and irrationality during debates.  Anyone who doesn't shut up and stop criticizing their religion is considered "millitant". Its the only defense mechanism they have because they can't defend their faiths with actual logic and sound arguments.
Comment by Dallas the Phallus on March 16, 2011 at 12:47pm

What they really mean by "atheist fundamentalist" is a person who doesn't roll over and let them jam their religion in his or her face, and isn't willing to tolerate logical fallacies and irrationality during debates. Anyone who doesn't shut up and stop criticizing their religion is considered "millitant".

 

Precisely Lindsey. Well said.

Comment by a7 on March 19, 2011 at 12:11am

yess, there is no biblical god or his pet monkey jebus. how much more evidence against was the big book of fairy tales says.

we could start at the beginning and its lies and untruths from day one.

 

a7gg10 is also my tweet rants

 

keep safe

 

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