A story recently out talks about a mother whom was breastfeeding her child that was asked not to. Apparently she "caused an uproar" by this normal act. I want to point out that while the article headline claims that this was due to Muslims, nothing in the text shows that to be true. 

 

Britain has been in ass-kiss mode with Muslims for years, and I don't get it. A blind man was removed from a bus with his seeing-eye dog because a Muslim freaked out because dogs are ritually unclean. Really? Are people that just had sex no longer allowed on British Busses because they are ritually unclean? Can I hop on with a package of bacon? 

 

Women Constables are asked to wear a head covering when entering a Mosque. Really? Are the Male Constables issued sideburns for entering Hasidic Synagogues? How about a Yarmulke?  There is no reason that those in authority need capitulate to others. You believe this, I believe something else, there is no reason for me to act like anything else is the case. 

 

The idea of Sharia Courts is absurd to me as well. How can you have a system that is not regulated by the government, yet it is binding? A system of law that does not recognize women as equal? Gays as legal and ethical beings? Shouldn't the law of the land stay with that of the country rather than entering this slippery slope? Sharia Banks, Mortgage companies, and courts. Why allow the division? Set up a bank that only those of one religion can use. Why not white only banks? 5th generation British only banks? Why is it absurd one way and not the other? 

 

Clearly the division is causing the expectation that blind people can't use the bus or that women can't breastfeed in public. It's barbaric and time that the British people stand up for themselves. If you don't stand up for yourselves sooner or later, there is going to be a legal precedent set that is not going to be favorable or in accordance with long standing British Law. You'll want to have nipped it in the bud before you get to that point.

 

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Comment by Sassan K. on July 15, 2011 at 11:32am

no wonder Noam Chomsky gets pissed off over there.

Nim Chimpsky is not any person that anyone takes seriously - esp. concerning politics, economics, and international affairs. The only area he has had intellect and contributed was with linguistics (although we now realize his influence was not so important and much less significant as even his postulated "language acquisition device" which what basically made him famous - has yet to be found or located); therefore, to quote Nim Chimpsky as someone who values "intellect" doesn't demonstrate that you yourself possess so called intellect; especially when claiming such events as that has been mentioned on this thread didn't happen when in fact they have happened in the U.K., all over Europe, and continue to do so.

As I stated, even your own prime minister David Cameron along with other European world leaders have declared the policies of ass kissing and bending backwards to cultures/beliefs that are intolerant to human rights/women's rights instead of demanding assimilation and the most minimum principles that we value in the west - as a failed policy. And you in the U.K. have indeed a very - very difficult Muslim problem. Your Muslims tend to be far to extremist and fundamentalist. Hence, 7/7 and the need for your country to pass stringent anti-terror laws that very much surpass the Patriot Act by the distances of football fields.

Comment by Sassan K. on July 15, 2011 at 11:45am

And to say British Muslim ass kissing,people in glass house's shouldn't throw stones as every country in the world thinks that the U.S is not just kissing Israeli ass its practically fucking it!!!!!!Have a good look at your own country before slandering another Gaytor,your post has really pissed me off.

You seem like a kind of person who would justify horrific acts committed by Muslims against their own people - whether it is treating their female spouses as basically slaves in which they can hit them or beat them - hey, "it's just their culture", right? I guess genital mutilation would fall under the same umbrella, wouldn't it?

And you do something your types do - use Israel as a scapegoat in a veiled (maybe even unconscious level of anti-semitism). Not only did your policies of multiculturalism only worsen the problem among the self-segregation and lack of assimilation of the Muslim communities; but continuing to give excuses for the actions of Muslims at every turn and then conveniently providing a scapegoat to which they use from - they will only keep their own lives low by believing everything is to simply blame the "Zionists for the evils of the world and of their lives".

Do you wonder why western culture is superior? Western culture doesn't give excuses in the way that a self-apathetic and self-defeating mindset is prevalent in the Islamic communities and your kind only make it worse. It is no surprise that Israel has built a desert into a modern - advanced - area in which some of the world's top scientists and medical research facilities exist. It is a culture of working hard towards a goal - and in fact, in Israel we have a very high % of atheist Jews (estimated 10-20%). In fact, many of the world's great scientists have been atheist Jews.

Saying this, I acknowledge Israel is not perfect and we can blame the settlements for keeping things to a level of stalemate to some extent - as those are fanatical Jews. But to blame everything on Israel and the "Zionists" is a sick and masochistic mindset which only propagate this self-apathy and learned helplessness among Muslims.

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Comment by Sassan K. on July 15, 2011 at 12:03pm
And note who speaks out on the evils of Islam the most - two people who were born into Islam - Ahmed and I. To compare Christianity and Islam as equally evil is wrong and offensive. Christianity has become mostly secular for a reason - the Dark Ages, Reform, and Enlightenment periods. It is very legitimate to criticize Islam and justly so - and in addition, too many honor killings take place in Europe in the segregated Muslim communities as well.
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What's up Sissy K?  Are you not feeling well? You haven't called anyone an animal just yet. Just a spammin' away.
Comment by Sassan K. on July 15, 2011 at 12:11pm

and the constant publicity in the poor quality racist press.

aha! A press that still tries to be soft on Islam and to ignore the fundamental rudimentary problems of the belief. For example, in the Pastor case in which the Pastor wanted to burn the quran - the media tended to blame the Pastor when in fact the blame should have been placed with the barbarians that react in cutting heads off when becoming offended. When you don't stand up for your values, these sort of actions exactly take place - by refusing to take away the victim-hood card away from the Muslims.

And talking about "racism" - that's funny. This is coming from a guy who made a recent thread on how white people should blame themselves when minority groups "feel slighted" - in fact, a thread being racist against your own kind - the white man.

And it is quite convenient to speak against people who speak the truth on the facts as racist. It is quite comical and quite sad simultaneously.

Comment by yaiir on July 15, 2011 at 2:41pm

Hey guys, bit late to be joining the conversation but there are a couple of quick points I want to make.

 

First of all, Sassan, I also come from a Muslim family but I don't feel the need to hold such extreme views.  Saying that Britain needs to enact laws that surpass the patriot act ignores the whole point of having civil liberties in the first place, something that America supposedly considers of paramount importance.

 

The problem with extremism here in the UK is hugely overblown.  The vast majority of Muslims are well adjusted, moderate people.  Making it into an overt war of "us" against "them" will only further radicalise people, never persuading people to join our side.

 

While I share your hope that one day we can, as a race, overcome the shackles of religion we have to think what is the best way of doing this?

 

Appearing as cold hearted, intolerant and insensitive to people's beliefs by, for example, female officers refusing to do the most simple of acts such as covering her hair when entering a mosque and thus angering a community and building barriers between already segregated communities.  

 

OR.

 

Being 'the bigger man', covering your hair, showing you respect peoples beliefs so long as they do not infringe on people's rights and thus giving people on the fence the chance to look over and think about things clearly without having this kind of 'us' v 'them' mindset.

 

And please dont try to accuse me, or anyone else on this site of "beingithe knd of person who would justify horrific acts committed by Muslims against their own people"

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