What does an atheist believe about how the earth and how it was created? Do you believe in the big bang theory? If not could you explain your theory, and how we came to be?

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Comment by Jacob LeMaster on March 28, 2011 at 10:23pm
Welcome again!

I as well support the collection of Theories and Hypotheses known as the "Big Bang Theory" My biggest question is why theists do not.. The Hypothesis of the Primeval Atom was created by Monsignor Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître a Catholic Priest, astronomer and professor of physics and was never a proposition against a deity only a explanation of the scientific process behind the origin of the universe as we know it.
Comment by Paul Carrollton on March 28, 2011 at 11:04pm

I studied astronomy in college and heard all about the big bang theory.  The problem is that it is only a theory! As man continues to learn, the theory continues to change, as well it should.  It may be partially correct, but we really don't know, as we are stranded on the beautiful Big Blue Marble.

 

I definitely don't believe in the biblical story of creation.  And I do like the "Big Bang Theory" television show!

Comment by Paul Carrollton on March 28, 2011 at 11:46pm

Hi Nelson,

 

It really does seem correct to say that it is only a theory.  There are many scientific theories that are proposed and constantly tweaked.  That's all I'm saying.  As an example, the theory of evolution continues to be perfected as more knowledge is acquired.

 

A present-day example of a theory gone wrong is the nuclear plant problems in Japan.  They did the best they could with the knowledge they had.  In theory, they felt the reactors were designed to be safe.  In hindsight, maybe not.

 

The big bang theory is just that - a theory.  It isn't even very old.  The scientists will continue to collect data and adjust it as necessary.  They may even watch the TV show!

 

Have a great night!

Comment by Dara on March 29, 2011 at 1:19am

I to went to college and there i studied geoscience,physics, anthropology. I thought what a trip all the materials the earth needs for us to be surviving on it. Look at its axis, its angle, its motion, and the position of our planet so we get night and day or our weathers. All life supporting which other planets don't. Maybe aliens somewhere out there who knows what aliens are or where they're at ? Somebody had to have had place the earth with quite perfection made for us humans.

Comment by Jacob LeMaster on March 29, 2011 at 1:29am
It's is far from perfect for us.. More like tolerant of us sometimes.. The universe is writhe with chaos.. The world with disease death and destruction.. That we live at all is out of luck and all of our lives are short lived in comparison to the the planet that we inhabit and the universe it is in.. Life is a wonderful thing to have and can not be taken for granted a beautiful accident by the secular mindset..
Comment by Alejandro M on March 29, 2011 at 2:46am
Am I wrong in sensing that Dara is really a theist who is trying to come in the discussion from the other side?

And to Paul, gravity is also a "theory", and it's also not very old... does that mean that it's false? The Black Hole Theory is the closest we have to explaining how the Universe started...
Comment by Albert Bakker on March 29, 2011 at 2:47am
How's about the Earth being almost perfect for us, because we and our line of ancestors have been spending billions of years to adapt to it.
Comment by Nate on March 29, 2011 at 2:52am

i really like the way Victor Stenger explains theories in God: The Failed Hypothesis....

 

Outside of scientific community it is a common misconception for people to view a theory as something thats just an idea with no backing evidence, typically confusing it with what is known as a hypothesis.  For a theory to be accepted into the ranks of scientific knowledge, theories must demonstrate thier value by passing numerous, risky empirical tests and by showing themselves to be useful.  The theories that fail these tests, or do not prove useful, are descarded.  It is for this reason that I find it amusing and ironic that opponents of evolution think they are undermining it by calling it "just a theory".  We must recognize and acknowledge that scientific models and theories, no matter how well established, are still human contrivances and subject to change by future developments.  This is in contrast to revelations from God, which should be true unconditionally and not subject to revision.  We can never know when some new model will come along that surpasses the old one. We regard such a happening as the welcome progress of science rather than some disastrous revolution that tears down the whole prior edifice, rendering it worthless.

 

The rest of the book also does a good job of explaining why us as human beings, as well as universe, are far from even being labeled as a good design, and that they look just as they should without any God involved

 

Comment by Mr. Anderson on March 29, 2011 at 3:27am

@Alejandro M - Dara is a theist alright.

 

@Paul Carrollton - When I read you saying 'just a theory'. you imply it is a general idea, a musing. Theists certainly imply that it is somehow a vague idea dreamt up which may come close to a kind of explanation. Rather it's an explanation which as close to a 100% proof as possible. Yes it may change, but only slightly in detail as new information is gathered. When it is 'tweaked', it is to accommodate new information, not to completely rewrite the theory.

From here

The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics). One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed.

Comment by Dara on March 29, 2011 at 4:07am

@Alejandro M.& Mr.Anderson theist in no way i am. @Nelson & Albert Bakker
Perfect as for us to live on it i mean perfect like so theres an earth with humans on it with the right amount of air to breath with the right amount of space to fit us humans on it . Not the way our earth is i mean everything on this earth is horrible from us fighting wars cause we cant make peace with each other. In no way did i mean the earth was perfect cause in no way is the earth perfect whatsoever .

 

Did dinosaurs really know what they where doing or where there life was taking them? Did dinosaurs have emotions like us? Did Dinosaurs Have thoughts about how our earth was created or why they where alive? Did dinosaurs Talk? God created the world in six days right? Six days doesn't have to mean really six days to us it could've meant 6years or even 6thousand years in Terms,and in between that time dinosaurs existed long before man evolved because on the sixth day God made Man. I didn't say the earth was made perfect just for ''me'' but for men and women to be alive on it with the right amounts of oxygen and gravity. We cannot be compared to a dinosaur cause a dinosaur dont compare to us humans whatsoever and as for robots in the near future dont think so what would be there purpose and how did they evolve? cant say ancestry cause we are not that of a robot. And plus i dont think the earth is gonna be here forever anyways, not the way were living now.

 

@Alejandro M

 

 i would like to know how a black hole theory explains how the universe came to be?

 

 

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