Today I participated in the baptism of my two 'god'children. Their mother knows I am atheist, but I agreed to take part in the ceremony for the sake of her father, who is expected to pass away within days. It was a catholic/episcopalian ceremony, performed by the chaplain at the grandfather's hospice center. It was very awkward for me and my wife, but we played along and kept up appearances. Although I would have preferred to stand up for my own beliefs, I do not have any heartburn over giving the grandfather some peace of mind before his passing. Not necessarily peace of mind that the boys will be "saved" per se, but in that there are other people in the world who have their best interests in mind.
Comment by carlos emmanuel alvarez villalba on August 28, 2011 at 10:50pm one thing i need to ask, or tell im an atheist and my wife is closet atheist, but due to her family pressure were gonna baptize my 1 year old daughter, although im not ok with the idea, we did come to the agreement that the baptizing would be the first and last time religion is forced on my baby with out her giving consent and that the rest of her time she'll get and atheist upbringing, any thing you might ad or just feed back would be good.
Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on August 29, 2011 at 4:43am For Carlos and TeemjMcs - what lucky children are these, to have parents like you. Wouldn't worry about participating in baptisms etc. as these children will not be going through the brainwashing and indoctrination that most fervent xians do.
You may get a knot in your stomach when going through this shite, but these kids are going to have Atheists for parents - and you will give them the morals and ethics that you both espouse, and your children will grow up to have empathy, know right from wrong - without fear. You are the best teachers these kids could ever have. Just enjoy your children. How brilliant is that.
Comment by Godless Conservative on August 29, 2011 at 9:29am For Carlos
I don't get this either. I mean if your wife wanted to then maybe. But you thinking this is going to permanently get her family off it is a daydream. You guys need to live your own lives. What you do with your own child is none of their business, and eventually you have tell them that.
Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on August 29, 2011 at 9:31am That is the point - don't get your knickers in a knot or lose sleep over it. The deed is done.
What are the repercussions if your wife comes out of the closet? Will she be shunned - or won't care if she is? I was asked to be godmother to my brothers children - nah, sorry, couldn't do that.
But I was up front about it.
Comment by carlos emmanuel alvarez villalba on September 4, 2011 at 10:53pm thanks alot to every one for the comments!
i know i must tell them. and i will.
Comment by James on September 4, 2011 at 11:35pm But you thinking this is going to permanently get her family off it is a daydream.
I agree 100%.
@ Carlos. In fact, I fear that you will be doing the exact opposite by going through with the baptism. Once that has taken place, your wife's family will likely be of the mind that the child is a member of the church and that it is their duty to assure that they are given religious education. At least by skipping the act, there is the slight chance that they may respect your choice, or at the very least might not feel as obligated to guarantee that the child is brought up in that particular faith. If you haven't baptized yet, I'd call it off. They will raise a fuss now, but I feel that you will likely be saving yourself additional headaches down the line.
Cheers!
Comment by carlos emmanuel alvarez villalba on September 4, 2011 at 11:52pm i know that is gonna happen, but it was an agreement between my wife and i long before we had a kid, and boy i tried to call it off, but i just caved in, i live in mexico in a small town im like the only atheist here, my wife is agnostic atheist but won't admit it and theirs just to much for 1 atheist to take, i know i should have been more firm of my unbelief but, i could not.
it will be hell for me knowing that my fundie mother in law will try to teach her about zombie jesus all the damn time, and mi wife doesn't want to disappoint her family so she wont choose a side, my parents are both atheist but her family is really catholic, and it will be hard ill just have to do my best at not lying to her about god.
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