"25 life changing verses"                                                                                                                                                                    


I stumbled upon this website that has 25 Bible verses that are supposed to "change your life". The very first verse that comes up is, of course.. about Atheists. The link is posted above. Please read and share your thoughts.


Verse 1:  Psalms 14:1 commentary


The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.



This is mankind’s dilemma:  we have ruled out the answer before asking the question.  We ask, “why are we here?”, or “where did we come from?”, or even “why does all this stuff have to happen?” without ever realizing that the answer is something we’d rather not believe in.  The Bible has a name for people who don’t believe in God, and it isn’t “atheist”.  It is “fool”.


The Bible tells us that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and knowledge. Without God, how can we have any true wisdom?  I can look at a computer and say, “wow, that’s impressive”, but if I believe it got there by accident over millions of years, you’d call me a fool.  Rightly so.  And so are all of us, if we can look around us and say that all this beauty happened by chance. Psalms 19:1 tells us that the world around us literally shows us God’s handiwork, that the night sky literally declares to us His glory.  We have no excuse for our unbelief.

But the larger issue facing each of us is in the last part of this verse:  there is none that doeth good.  Mankind has a problem:  we are all evil.  The Bible tells us again that our hearts are deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked (Jeremiah 17:9).  Look around you: the evidence is everywhere.  Why would God let you into Heaven?


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Comment by Albert Bakker on April 21, 2011 at 3:10pm

I have been visiting the site. I am curious as to what it is supposed to accomplish to pick a few quotes with the word "sin" in them from different books that are already unrelated and put the quotes into some new context that has absolutely nothing to do with anything from the texts they were lifted out of.

The message that I got from it is something like: you're an absolutely worthless piece of crap, but don't worry everybody is a worthless piece of crap and that's why Jesus wants you to join our cult.

If it convinces me of anything it is that they could use some advice on advertising techniques.

Comment by Albert Bakker on April 21, 2011 at 3:24pm

"Verse 16" (and the commentary) made me think of Louis Theroux answer to that hippie-turned-drill-sergeant from WBC.  "Now the Bible would say that, wouldn't it?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbi_ARtly1s  (at 1:40)



Comment by Arcus on April 21, 2011 at 3:43pm
Quotemining their own book is apparently the ultimate strategy of religious people.
Comment by Albert Bakker on April 21, 2011 at 3:51pm
Oh no definitely not. They quote mine everything in writing and other media as well.
Comment by Arcus on April 21, 2011 at 3:55pm
I meant that they have already quotemined every other book, and now they've been driven so far they have to resort to even doing it to their own book (which is, apparently, absolutely correct and thus should not need to be quotemined). :)
Comment by no2ndhandgod on April 21, 2011 at 8:59pm
Notice to theists from a cultured despiser

You may not impose your beliefs, faith, or interpretations -- your stinking fables -- on anyone.

You're welcome to your beliefs, not your own truths.
You're welcome to your faith, not your own knowledge.
You're welcome to your interpretations, not your own reality.

Establishing truth, knowledge, and reality requires open, verifiable evidence.

Faith, the trusting suspension of disbelief, has always been theater of the absurd.

the anti_supernaturalist

Comment by delapruch on April 22, 2011 at 5:59am

god is a fictional character, firstly---may i point out what a vengeful & pityfully jealous one it is as well---i don’t want to spend time beating the dead horse---if you yourself are taking time to post & peruse an Atheist website, i commend you and feel you are walking in the direction of rationality and therefore furthering the positive progress of our species with every step you take.  for those that call us fools, remember that the people who supposedly wrote this age old work of fiction never met the new testament messiah that they say they did---all the supposed writers did so decades after said fictional events.  do yourself a favor and watch bill maher’s “Religulous.” it’s a work of genius.  you can see it for free on youtube---the extras are also posted, which i highly recommend as well.   the stand-up comedy of ricky gervais as well as his own phenomenally funny movie, “The Invention of Lying,” the written works of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel C. Dennett are of course canonical and presently quite relevant---of course you can find the debates & interviews that they have taken part in on youtube as well, for free!  i also suggest taking a look at the work of Derren Brown, the illusionist/mentalist who has made it his quest to debunk religious fanatics and charlatans who peddle lies to all of us through psychic bullshit, etc.  ultimately, the fact remains that you are not alone in this.  the world is filled with non-believers.  see:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism for more friends worldwide, i suggest thinkatheist.com & atheistnexus.com as well.  there is a famous saying that makes its way onto buttons and t-shirts for individuals who choose to live their life more independently, constantly trying to find a greater sense of freedom in this world; “only sheep need a shepard.” and though it does pertain specifically to the lore of christianity, clearly it is applicable when considering the general impulse one feels when trying to gain more freedom in this world for themselves and others.         

Comment by Doubting Thomas on April 22, 2011 at 7:40am

I didnt come here by chance atleast not so much, sex was involved and that applies for the last millions of years or so.

For other life forms the true first ones which I am not one of them I repeat, if my parents didnt do it then I wouldnt be born. For the first ones chance helped them come to be and frankly 99% of lifeforms dead REALLY shows the chances of survival.

It was lucky and frankly as for what really made life into what it was well the first lifeforms virus like with no logic whatsoever well that's a no brainer a molecular process as for the thinking beings of today well they're here after the more stupid got beaten by the less stupid and the stupid got smarter and it happened again and again brute force taking predence mostly.

Anyway if jesus likes me he'll come to me since I am not important enough to be prophesied or something. LOL

Comment by John G. on April 22, 2011 at 8:25am

Personally I'd agree with "The fool has said in his heart there is no god" for a few different reasons.

1: Because I don't say anything in my heart, more my vocal cords, mouth, lungs I suppose. Even brain, but never ever heart. That would be more a gurgling of blood noise.


2: More seriously, I think gnostic atheists (with a few expceptions for clearly logically false gods) are actually quite silly. Infact I think the position or viewpoint of a gnostic atheist is less plausible than a gnostic theist. Knowing something exists without proof takes a (silly) faith. Knowing (for 100% certainty) something doesn't exist takes a sheer an arogant ignorance.

Comment by Albert Bakker on April 22, 2011 at 10:27am

Alright if you want to tie a percentage to it, what would you estimate the chance percentage was of the Christian God not existing?

Lets say you are Y% certain of the Christian God existing. Then you are 100-Y % certain that the Christian God does not exist. To me Y is such an infinitesimally small number (maybe something in the order of the inverse of the number of protons in the universe) that I feel - very - confident to ignore it entirely. So I say I am certain that no Christian God exists and allow me to extend that to all other Gods, an either equal or greater probability for sure. The latter part - to ignore the either equal or bigger, but still infinitesimally small probability of other Gods existing - seems not to be a problem for Christians, nor have I heard a Christian (or anyone else not believing in any of those) calling that particularly arrogant.

How so? Well, at least for a Christian it is consistent, because you see, in Romans 1:20 Paul lets us know that there is so much evidence for the Christian God that you are without excuse for not seeing any.

But I don't see any. Nobody sees any, even Christians, and the cleverest amongst them can't see any. For they spend inordinate amounts of time, determination and effort to concoct the most tortured arguments, using sheer limitless imagination and bending the rules of logic with frivolous liberty, and nevertheless fail their Sisyphean task miserably with utmost consistency.

But forget about them, do you see any? Do you see any evidence that could make Y big enough to make it anywhere near significant?


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