Arguments for state religion/church

I'm from a country which has Protestantism as an  official state religion and a state controlled church. Ideologically I  am of course against this, but the progressive in me support it. Just  check out the list of the current state of religion:
-The Prime Minister, and many of the politicians, are publically atheists.
-Abortion is a non-issue, legal to week 12 and state sponsored.
-Gay marriage is allowed (priests can choose if they wish to perform it).
-Gay priests can be in a partnership (but not married).
-Gay adoption is allowed.
-There has been a lesbian bishop.
-The Church does not accept the teachings of evil or the concept of hell.
-There is generally little mixing of religion and politics.
-Mentioning religion in public is generally frowned upon.
-The Christian Democrats is one of the strongest proponents of social  benefits and generally align with the environmental movement.
The effects (as per 2008) were recently summarized in an article:
-14% of the population over 18 answered "I previously believed in a God, but not any longer". 3% replied the inverse.
-'Definately no belief in God' increased from 10% to 18% from '91 to '08. Inverse declined from 20% to 15%.
-Active Church goers (at least 1x/month) declined from 11% to 7%.  People who only go for occations (i.e. funerals, marriages)  decreased from 45% to 38%. (Note that going to Church on Christmas is a  strong tradition).
-The largest decrease in religion was among those aged 55-65 (not just the young!).
-Number of Baptised has decreased from 81% to 68% (Baptism strongly rooted in tradition).
-Only 22% of recently confirmed 14 year olds would concider further  Church activites (Confirmation strongly rooted in tradition).
I am not suggestion that my arguments are valid for every country,  there are definately a number of local factors affecting the continual  and fast decrease in the popularity of religion. Also, there are  negative aspects I haven't dealt with such as a blasphemy legislature,  Christianity lessons in school, and automatic membership in the state  church upon birth. However, take it as evidence that the major problem  may not be the mixing of state and religion. Rather, it is the mixture  of religion and politics which cause undesirable results.

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Comment by Alexander Jason Cherry on March 14, 2011 at 3:32pm

How can you be sure the existence of the state church led to all these progressive benefits?


Also: what country is this?

Comment by Arcus on March 14, 2011 at 3:37pm

That was not my claim, only that mixing state and church is not necessarily an evil for (generally more liberal) atheists. The subpoint was that the seperation of religion and politics is more important.

This is Norway, but it's similar across the Nordics. 

Comment by Gerald Scott on March 14, 2011 at 8:50pm
Great post.  Got me reading about Norway.   What did I find: What has secularism done to Norway? The Global Peace Index rates Norway the most peaceful country in the world. The Human Development Index, a comparative measure of life expectancy, literacy, education and standard of living, has ranked Norway No. 1 every year for the last five years.
Norway has the second highest GDP per capita in the world, an unemployment rate below 2 percent, and average hourly wages among the world's highest.  This information was posted in 2007.  Hope it remains today.


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