Anyone ever check out the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe (CTMU)?

One of the smartest men in the world is Chris Langan apparently, and he developed this theory and wrote a book that is now on my reading list. Anyone on ThinkAtheist ever look into this work?

(By the way, please do not join this thread to argue about who the smartest person in the world is. If you want to discuss that, please just start another discussion.)

Anyway, here's an interview with Chris:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ak5Lr3qkW0

Strangely, he is a professional bouncer (weird!).

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Comment by Erock68la on June 2, 2014 at 11:22pm
Comment by Unseen on June 3, 2014 at 3:30pm

Many crackpots are above average in intelligence. This gives them the ability to confuse people raising objections as well as to delude themselves that they are on to something.

Comment by Pope Beanie on June 3, 2014 at 8:27pm

Someday such crackpotism will be its own category of science fiction, including e.g. scientology, while real science continues to rapidly make progress and realize concrete (i.e. not mushy) predictions.

But I do think the idea (full disclosure: in my blog) of fecund universes (Cosmological Natural Selection/CNS) may be worth discussing for many years or centuries to come.

Comment by James Cox on June 3, 2014 at 9:26pm

Can you imagine the work Einstein might have completed if he had also been a bouncer? The mind it hurts with the thought...

Comment by James Cox on June 3, 2014 at 9:30pm

This begins to sound like my early ramblings before I gots me some education.

If 'god' created the universe, and the only 'material' in existence was 'god', surely the universe is made up of 'god'. Happily this is as far as I got before the male mysteries intervened.

For what its worth....  

Comment by Andy Hoke on June 3, 2014 at 10:05pm

@ Erock68la

I read the comments on the physics blog you referenced.

Langan's CTMU appears to be based on an 'information' basis of reality. I don't claim to be on the level of any of these guys, but the notion that we are all part of the same informational identity may have legs.

I may be romantic, but the notion that we are all part of the same universal mind or body does in fact appeal to me. 'Oneness' resonates with me personally.

Comment by Unseen on June 3, 2014 at 11:41pm

If mind and body are one, then no body, no mind. And of course, that's the way it is.

Comment by Andy Hoke on June 4, 2014 at 4:30am

I cannot dismiss the idea that body is illusion when one considers the 'Ship of Theseus' tale.

As many already know, the ship of Theseus was a first century thought experiment. If every physical part of something is slowly replaced over time (as was the ship of Theseus circa 1st century), is it actually still the same thing?

A simpler version is 'my grandfather's axe. 'This is my grandfather's axe. I just gave it a new handle, and my father replaced the metal head some years ago, but this is my grandfather's axe.' Similarly, every cell in your body (which was originally, and shall eventually be, stardust) is replaced every few years.

Langan (con-artist or not) posits that information itself is a more fundamental construct than what is popularly called physical reality.

Comment by Andy Hoke on June 4, 2014 at 4:31am

@ James

What are the 'male mysteries?' 

Comment by Andy Hoke on June 4, 2014 at 4:34am

@ Unseen

Many crackpots are above average in intelligence. This gives them the ability to confuse people raising objections as well as to delude themselves that they are on to something.

Reminds me of Clarke's third law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." We would need to substitute 'theory' for 'technology,' but I think the same concept applies.

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