A planet without men.

Dont I wish I lived on a planet where men dont exist, 

Equality hardly exists in this planet of males and females

Hermaphrodites and Androgynes are asumed to be a myth

Yet so many earthlings believe that a god is not a myth

Transsexuals and transgenders are frowned on,

Conservatives consider the small and big changes an abomination.

In some places even women are put down not alone by segregation.

Men dominate the planet, together with their invention,

The oldest mind manipulation called religion

The religio political leaders that made this planet a prison

Are all males, who abuse little children.

From the the highest levels that no one can name their positions

Down the authoritarian pyramid of political theism to the free masons

All male totalarian testosterone penis brain driven bunch of scum,

Raping mother earth until she bleeds into the stars, cutting her open.

Will mankind, yes, man kind, kill mother earth, with nukes ?

Sprawling her insides into the moon in full glare of the sun ?

If only this planet had no men, men as such, this man kind

The inhumane insane human, burning babies on giant owl statues

Molesting boys in churches, marrying little girls in mosques...

Making millions of money from civil and world wars they caused.

I wish I lived on a planet that had no men, especially this man kind.

If there were no men, such as these , we would be exploring galaxies by now.

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Comment by Pope Beanie on April 3, 2014 at 10:17pm

I've been trying to think of a more scientifically objective way to state this problem, without making it sound like logic and science should trump individual emotional needs. Civilization and cultural evolution have progressed beyond expectations, but with some negligence and cost.

Men have shaped civilization, accelerated change, and imposed socio-political and religious institutions in the process. I don't believe we would have come this far, this rapidly, without the aggression and competition that human testosterone evokes. But neither would we have had world wars, mass genocides, terrorism, our current state of class and gender inequalities, global warming, and so on.

I think at this point in human cultural evolution, men should back off, seek less power and more inclusivity and equality, and plan more long term than short term. Else I'm not sure we'll get it together before burning ourselves out as a species.

I'm for more women and less men in leadership positions, but let's not forget that there are some crazy-scary women out there with pretty conservative (i.e. traditional male) pattern blindness.

Comment by Jeremy Myob on April 3, 2014 at 11:07pm

This is outrageously offensive. Sexism is bad. Men are people too. I'm particularly disturbed by the last line.

Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on April 4, 2014 at 2:23am

I thaught this poem would stimulate thought , questions and analysis on humanity.. if you read the poem more carefully "men such as these" and "this man kind" and see the first stanza you would note that it focuses specifically on male domination types, and basically the poem reflects my experiences and the pain and suffering inflicted onto me by men in humanity. I had issues with abusive women as well, but statistically, aprox 80% of my experience in this so called life are issues caused by men. I find it hard to actually trust them and most end up being listed as aquaintences rather than trustworthy friends. The evidence is there that since there had been no equality is the social evolution of humanity , there are problems that exist.

Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on April 4, 2014 at 2:27am

And lastly the last line is based on personal experience comparing the social evolution on this planet to another where the people are hermaphrodite, but like on this planet there are people that were born male or female but are rare in comparison, like as if life is laterally inverted

Comment by Simon Paynton on April 4, 2014 at 5:39am

@Belle - "I've never met one in person that turned out to be completely trustworthy."  - I'm lucky enough that I know three.  One of them is weak and has cancer and he lets you down a bit, but in his heart he's a strong lion.  I've used a few of his quotes on my website.  

@Danielle - I can see where you're coming from.  I don't call it sexist, I call it accurate. 

Do you know this?  The S.C.U.M. manifesto.  You might find it entertaining.  Valerie Solanas is a hero of mine.  In this picture, she was actually in chains being arrested by the police. 

Comment by Omnipotent Feces on April 4, 2014 at 5:59am

It definitely seems as though you have a general hate for all men. Yes, it may stem from your personal experiences with certain men, but from this you have inferred that this planet would be better off without men. Blatant sexism. 

'Making millions of money from civil and world wars they caused." Hmmm. Don't see the evidence in this. If you are referring to the Industrial Military Complex, than it's still profitable for women as well. Yet, remember how this kind of feminist thought came about: world wars that have empowered women. War planted the seed of feminism and has boosted many economies. Whether the essence of war is good or evil is besides the point. Allllllllso, barely any wars in history have been directly caused from religion. Count ALL wars of history and you'll find that the majority of wars are over land/political power. 

You also seem to paint a picture of women being the answer to evil; flying us around the galaxies. I beg to differ. From what I can recall, women are humans, too. All humans have done shitty things, male and female. You watch, as soon as there will be an equal playing field of female and male political leaders, we will not be able to tell the difference between then, now and 50 years ago. Women worked alongside men to build the nuke. 

Let's not forget: women have testosterone as well. 

Comment by Pope Beanie on April 4, 2014 at 2:49pm

Lots of men like me are obviously not the "men such as these". And there are woman rapists and pedophiles, woman anti-LGBT hate mongers, woman world leaders willing to use nukes, woman rapists of the environment, woman theocrat wanna-bes, and so on.

Yes there are those women, but in such small numbers compared to men. I admire your posting of valid sources and statistics, but in this case they'd surely show the male/female lopsidedness that most people just take for granted, without questioning why.

Comment by Pope Beanie on April 4, 2014 at 3:10pm

Let's not forget: women have testosterone as well.

But not nearly as much. What I'm still trying to work out is how to explain society's problems with male aggression, without implying that it's mother nature's natural state of affairs. I think the truth is that it's a combination of "civilization" (e.g. including patriarchal religion) and male aggression that 1) acts like fuel to the fire of the growth of civilization but 2) carries negative side effects as well.

This should not be a question of blame so much as a question of how to best overcome these powerful and dangerous genes + culture circumstances we're born with today.

Meanwhile, as a rule, I believe that the victims of any kind of repression from the majority culture have a right to express their pain and suffering and address their grievances in ways that raise the attention level of the majority. It's only fair! And the raising of majority culture's awareness seems to be the only way to bring about positive change, so far in human civilization.

Comment by Pope Beanie on April 4, 2014 at 3:32pm

That wouldn't alter the sexism in the piece. The poem sets men as the root cause of the stated issues implying women would not have presented the same problem. If there was some factual basis for this, that would be fine, but realistically, there isn't. It's bigotry.

I think context matters, just as it did while paying attention to the anger of the victims of racism. Anger at the majority by itself does not invalidate the complaint. It should be clear to most people at TA that Danielle has a right to be angry and complain in a way that the supposed "sensitive majority" might find offensive.

It's understandable that few people want to deal with other people's anger, but that should not automatically invalidate a victim or minority's complaint. (Unless the anger includes violence.)

Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on April 4, 2014 at 4:31pm

Lots of men like me are obviously not the "men such as these". And there are woman rapists and pedophiles, woman anti-LGBT hate mongers, woman world leaders willing to use nukes, woman rapists of the environment, woman theocrat wanna-bes, and so on.

If there were no men, women wouldn't be exploring the galaxy, women would still be doing the same things (and the human race would go extinct).

There are men and women 'such as these'--  i.e., people such as these-- gender is no delineation.

Fantastic, you found some bad women to support your argument, but is it statistically the same number as bad men, or has there not been enough time and events to provide an accurate statistical analysis of a fair ratio of bad men and women in humanity, who have caused crimes against humanity, and raped the planet, because to much of men exist in the authoritative positions in the first place due to the strong fixation of religion political all-men secret societies who do have a strong religious and political influence in the social arena ?  

So lest say as a thought simulation, where imagination can play a role, but keeping reason and logic as its protocols, If suddenly women had been given rite of the secret societies, religious institutions, and politics which had been in the majority of the men of earth hands, would things change for the better or for the worst ? Would they oppose secret societies, and hidden political agendas ? How would politics change , how would religions change ?, would it lead to more reason and understanding , that would lead to more atheism  than theism ? Are the Asari in the Mass Effect game an accurate rough simulation of this ?

Actually humanity wont go extinct without men, since women technically have wombs , and parthenogenesis is possible, and some animals have evolved as as such, where no males exist.

To honest If gender equality existed from the beginning of this planet's civilization, people would be better off today.


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