A final though on Christians & Non believers

final thought.. 

Christians believe that if one lives by the teaching of Jesus and obey his commandments what lies in store after death is a heavenly paradise. On the other hand those who rebel against God and live a sinful life are assured of an eternity of never ending suffering unless they asks God for forgiveness before they die.

 

Nonsense I hear you say. Well unfortunately this Christian belief cannot be proven or disproved. It is simply a belief. One chooses to believe it or not.

Lets look the time a typical Christian spends in prayer.

 

A Christian goes to Church say on average once per week on a Sunday and the service lasts 45 minutes He / She  prays each day for 5 minutes in total.

So in the round of one year a Christian spends 2340 minutes in Sunday service and 1820 minutes in prayer. That is a total of  69 hours per year

Take the average life expectancy of 67 years (Encyclopædia Britannica)

So 69 hours of prayer per year multiply by 67 years = 4623 hours or approx 6 months.

Over a persons life of 67 a Christian will spend  less than 1%  (0.007%) of his / her time in prayer.

 

If Non believers are correct in their belief it means Christians will have spend a portion of their life (approx 1%) for nothing. However if Christians belief turn out to be correct then by offering up less than 1% of their life time and provided they live a good life they will have secured eternal happiness and Non-believers will face the wrath of God for having denied him. Now if this were a 2 horse race where would you place you money to minimize your loss? The Non Believers horse seems to be high risk, all or nothing. If I win I was proved right. If  I loose it will be devastating. The Christian horse seems to be a have more favourable terms. If I lose I lost 1% of my time and I was wrong in my belief but if I win I get a magnificent prize infinitely times more greater than the prize a Non-believers would get if he / she were to win. 

 

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Comment by Strega on February 5, 2013 at 9:11pm

Google "Pascal's Wager"

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on February 5, 2013 at 9:27pm

I am the goddess Heather and you must believe in me and send me 9% of your wages.  If you do not, then I will not only burn you alive for eternity in the afterlife but I will also condemn your entire family to the same fate.  You do not need to pray or spend a moment of your time worshiping me - just have your payroll department deduct 9% of your wages and send them to me.

So, there is even less cost in believing in me (both in time and money) than in Jesus/Yahweh/Holy Spirit.  On the other hand, failure to believe in me condemns your entire family - which is a much heavier price to pay than simply not believing in your malarkey.  Obviously I'm the better bet.

Comment by James Andrade on February 5, 2013 at 9:38pm

I have no fear of being wrong, so sorry this means nothing to me personally. Even it were true, I wouldn't want to praise an immoral god that sacrificed his son, let alone killed 99% of what he supposedly created leaving us, the center of the universe. God can care a less about the stars or failed solar systems. He must be thinking (with human-like traits, "eh, I like this species more than the rest" Playing a game with our lives and scaring everyone with the idea of infinite tortue. I rather be with Rational people. Plus his ego is ridiculous!

Comment by _Robert_ on February 5, 2013 at 9:50pm

Your conclusion lacks true faith. Pascal was a better mathematician than a philosopher. Any free thinking person will have doubts about all of the many religions. If you believe in things just because someone told you; perhaps you should stick with the church. Keep rationalizing all of the ridiculous assertions and bad things they do. But if you do have doubts, watch a few Christoper Hitchens or Dawkins debate videos. Excuse me now, I have to pray to the goddess Heather.

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on February 5, 2013 at 9:53pm

@RobertPiano

You are hereby granted absolution from the sin of your choice - make sure it's a doozy!

Comment by Stutz on February 5, 2013 at 11:19pm

I was not aware that I could just pick something and choose to believe in it.

So you're telling me that, even though I am convinced by the combined weight of logic, philosophy, history, biology, psychology, physics, and so forth that the Christian God is a myth, I can consciously will myself to ignore all of that and believe in God anyway, since it is apparently the prudent thing to do? Fascinating.

Comment by Logicallunatic on February 6, 2013 at 12:04am

Pascal was wrong. There is so much to lose in a life spent fearing and loving some fictional dickhead. Next week: Pascal applied to the three little pigs. 

Comment by onyango makagutu on February 6, 2013 at 12:44am

Pascal was wrong, I think he knew when he wrote the Pensees' that he was wrong. Con you need to spend a little time with the Pensees, you may just get to see how wrong he was.

A good Mathematician he was, at philosophy I think he sucked!

Comment by Louis on February 6, 2013 at 1:07am

This is all just a senseless basic math lesson. Basically, devote X amount of time to this fairytail and it equals eternal happiness. To the people here it equals B.S. no matter how small of an amount of time is devoted. Also, like Stutz pretty much said above, you can't MAKE yourself believe something. Either you truly believe it or you don't. People aren't going to believe it simply because we're told that if we don't we're going to suffer when we die. We choose to believe what we do based on evidence and facts. 

Comment by Claire Couch on February 6, 2013 at 3:41am

Yeah, I could debase myself kneeling a scraping to lots of things..  There are gods by the score...  I should probably spend some time being obsequious to all of them.  Oh, wait, they mostly all demand that I grovel to them only  and not the other guys..  Holy shit, I'm sorta fucked!  Which one do I choose??@!!  If I pick the wrong one, I'm doomed...  Wow, um, well, after poking in to it more, none have any evidence on their behalf, so I have no idea which way to kneel...  Well, since religion people love statistics so much, I looked at the numbers.  I'm most likely fucked regardless of what I do...  So I'll just follow the evidence...  High risk?  Perhaps.  But, not much riskier than any other religious choice, and a lot less likely to be full of coprolites..

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