1st World Problems for an Atheist College Student

I posted "Why are atheists so angry" to a friend on facebook. Another friend, who had recently within the past year converted to Catholicism, saw it and became outraged at Greta Christina's frequent mentions of the wrongdoings of the Catholic Church such as the sex abuse scandals. This friend proceeded to write several angry statuses about how atheists can't just leave other people alone and let them believe what they want to believe.

Ah, Facebook.

I was repeatedly told that I was condemning a whole religion for a select few people's actions. Have you watched this video? Do you think Greta Christina is being unfair in saying she's angry because of activities that represent extremist views and actions? I calmed the girl down by pointing out it must be an awful stereotype that Catholics have to deal with (maybe they should offer a desensitizing class when you convert) and I ultimately let her walk all over me as the big bad atheist who can't accept other view points.


Today I wonder if I will talk to her again. I'm the one that was hurt in the ordeal, but I was also the one who apologized. 


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Comment by Gideon Jagged on February 2, 2012 at 12:32pm

It seems that every group with access to media, social or otherwise, is going on about how they are the greatest victims of discrimination or prejudice.  Except for the Atheists and free thinkers.  

Atheists are openly called evil and devil worshippers in the US and elsewhere.  Laws condemning Atheists to death exist in many countries, while even in 'enlightened' countries such as the US, a public admission of Atheism would bar the individual from winning public office and most jobs, not to mention public and very vocal ostracization.  

No, we're not discriminated against at all, are we.


Comment by Kevin Coleman on February 2, 2012 at 12:51pm

When one's faith is shaken, they are more mad at the thin plank they stand upon, than the one shaking it.

Comment by Carl Brown on February 2, 2012 at 12:59pm

Religion, and the belief that God as the ultimate deity cannot be questioned, allows for such things to happen. Yes, what happened in the Catholic sex abuse scandal was perpetrated by a minority of people, but if you are part of such a group, then you have to take responsibility for the actions other people commit in the name of your group. The same case is made by Christians in regards to Islamic terrorists. 

Comment by Ed on February 2, 2012 at 8:15pm

I agree with Greta's video. But it fell on deaf ears when my sister viewed it. It does not strike a chord with the deists like it does with freethinkers.

Comment by Willson Stoner on February 2, 2012 at 10:39pm

To Carl Brown, when Christians hold all of Islam responsible for the actions of a few Islamic nutjobs they are wrong. The same is true of Catholics and the pedophiles. Does this kind of thinking just apply to religions or any group. Hoosiers? Boy Scouts? Book of the Month Club members? Since I am a citizen of the United States am I responsible for the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church? They are citizens of the U.S. too after all. If its just religious groups you think are wholly responsible for the actions of a few, why is that?

Comment by G. Michael Williams on February 2, 2012 at 11:23pm

Believers, IMHO, know they believe in a Bill of Goods.  Anytime, you shake the table, the house of cards is at risk.  Rather then face their belief they react with anger and defensive accusatory statements.  They fail to consider that if their belief is real, they have nothing to lose but, will gain a better way to spread the word.

My attempt to buttress my faith didn't work out so well.  Atheist!!! 

Sad part, you can't be friends with people that can't set aside personal beliefs regarding friends. If you're like me anti-theist it's even harder.  I won't hang out with people that intentionally deceive themselves, exception for family.  But, I won't tolerate bashing nor, listen to evangelism without defending atheism from even them.

Comment by Doug Reardon on February 2, 2012 at 11:50pm

Quit being a wuss, it aint't nothing compared to the stereotypes that atheists have to put up with! 

Comment by Ron V on February 3, 2012 at 1:07am

Imagine someone claims Unies exist and they worship Unies.  Is it not unreasonable to ask about Unies- why they believe in Unies, what is the evidence for Unies, etc?

Now imagine it so happens there is a Unie church.  And this church was responsible for slave trading, child molestation cover ups, systematic death of non-believers, failure to provide adequate medical care to impoverished and dying people (similar to Mother Teresa), and suppression of science (we could add more, of course, but this is sufficient).  Would we not be justified in criticizing this church and want these people exposed and brought to justice?  Would we not be reasonably justified in our criticism and asking why someone would want to be affiliated with such a church?

Or should we just let them believe what they want to believe?

Personally, I am amazed anyone who knows anything about the Catholic Church still supports this barbaric institution that has gotten away with so many crimes against humanity over so many centuries- all cloaked behind righteousness, robes, rituals, and churches (and let's not forget their wealth acquired from their malevolence).  I am almost physically sickened now when someone proudly claims they are a Catholic - to me, it is almost the same as claiming to be a Nazi- especially since the Catholic Church paved the way in Europe for the Jewish holocaust.

Comment by Christopher Downes on February 3, 2012 at 3:33am

This is a major issue for me.  I actually go into this in some depth in my blog post on atheist-positive.org today.  Basically religious people have trouble reconciling the fact that people can be Atheist and good.  They've been taught that all knowledge of right and wrong comes from religion, so we MUST be rejecting that if we don't believe in God.  They think that just because we don't believe Jesus Christ was the literal son of God we can't be empathetic and forgiving.  My blog is basically trying to reverse this idea.  "Atheist. Positive." is both an assertive statement of confidence that there is no God, and a message of general positivity that is rarely associated with Atheists by religious people.

Comment by Willson Stoner on February 3, 2012 at 4:23pm

To Doug Reardon, is this some sort anti religious hate group or is it THINK atheist! Ya know, reason, intelligence, that stuff? Grow up!


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