Welcome to the Militant Atheist Club, Mr. President

Conservative pundits are practically foaming at the mouth and speaking in tongues after President Obama's Thanksgiving Day giving-thanks-for-what-he-has speech.  According to the New York Daily News, he thanked the hard-working military men and women, volunteers serving those in need, and the pilgrims, pioneers and patriots who made this country great. But that wasn't enough for the religious bunch. They have crucified him for not, well, thanking the formerly crucified, or at least for not thanking said formerly crucified's dad.

 

That's right -- the President didn't thank God and as a result he's been labeled by conservative "columnist" Ben Shapiro as a "militant atheist."  Hmm, I didn't realize failing to do something made one "militant." Under Mr. Shapiro's view, I'm a militant anti-bather since I didn't take a shower this morning, you are probably a militant anti-laundry fanatic for not putting another load in the washer today, and he's a militant ignoramus, because he fails to speak about anything he actually knows anything about. Like many on the right, he instead substitutes brashness, sheer absurdity and outrageousness of statement for logic. It is ad hominem and unworthy of serious consideration. Besides, he's a doofus.

 

For me, though, Fox News's Eric Bolling made the dumbest statement when he argued Obama should have thanked God because "86% of Americans believe in some sort of God, whether it's Christianity or Islam or what not." I think the President should have therefore thanked "Whatnot" and see how that went over. (As an aside, I have since tried praying to "Whatnot" several times, but the only answer ever heard back was this one time after three glasses of wine last night when I could've sworn I got the response "whatever.")

 

Is Bolling seriously saying Obama should thank some generic god? I don't think it works like picking the generic corn flakes instead of Kellog's at the grocery story. And then what about all those other Americans? What about Hindus? Buddhists? Shrubbists?  Anyway, by excluding God, the President was far more inclusive in his speech; he recognized many may not hold the same religious views but can still be thankful for what they have (just not thankful to some vaporish apparition who appears only once every couple thousand years as a fiery tumbleweed). Kudos, Mr. President. And if this makes you a militant atheist, well, welcome to the club.

 

Skepticlese 

www.ithasteeth.com

 

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Comment by Skepticlese on November 27, 2011 at 7:31pm

Kir, I agree with you. In fact, I welcome their statements in this sense: it is easy to debate their point of view because one simply needs to point out that their arguments lack substance and are, instead fallacious. Without any substance, once refuted, their only response can be "nuh uh."  

And Epicuresfan88--Here's the good captain's view on some of this and our own possible god-like future (from IMDB):

 Picard: "Oh, I know Hamlet. And what he might say with irony, I say with conviction: "What a piece of work is man! How noble in reason! How infinite in faculty! In form, in moving, how express and admirable! In action, how like an angel! In apprehension, how like a god!" 

Q: "Surely, you don't see your species like that, do you?"

Picard: "I see us one day becoming that, Q. Is it that which concerns you?"

 

So I ask, if we reach Picard's admittedly optimistic view of our future (god-like in apprehension), what room is left for a deity?

Comment by Brett Arthur on November 27, 2011 at 10:27pm

This is silly... Obama is an open Christian. He's just being respectful to the fact that other groups of people exist in this country. Is he supposed to stop and say "Thanks to God, Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Xenu, FSM, and no one?" No, he's just being respectful to other belief systems.

Comment by The Doctor on November 28, 2011 at 1:55am

Haha skepticlese (nice name btw) Exactly! He should have payed some due respect!

I already think humanity has scientifcly reached the point the need of the supernatural, though I think it's been a process since Cappernicus getting to that point...The age in which great scientific minds lived lends a great name to the era "Enlightenment" (live long and prosper)

Comment by The Doctor on November 28, 2011 at 1:58am

mean to say *the point where we can at least scientificly explain without god...

Comment by anti_supernaturalist on November 30, 2011 at 3:35pm

Thou shalt honour the god-of-the-state



• Mr. Obama made a mistake in not calling upon 'God' to bless the US at Thanksgiving, the holiest of secular holidays.



His flubbing a ritual has nothing to do with his lack of a faith or with rejecting faith-based tax relief. Psychologically deeper, older by far than any modern religion is an antirepublican and undemoncratic idea that the leader is both human and divine -- a demigod.



• Mr. Obama is the latest avatar of Potus. He is a demigod. He stands alone. He is the one.



What does ‘Potus’ stand for? -- Secret Service argot for “President of the US”. The men who have been Potus often called upon 'Providence' (aka 'God'). Mr. Obama frequently intones the ritual "God bless the United States of America." He attends prayer breakfasts.



As a minor deity, Mr. Obama often acts out atavistic rituals. This he must do, both for his own 'soul' and the supernatural welfare of 'his' people. As demigod and mediator with Providence, he must publicly confess his shortcomings and beseech continued success from that eternal providential order, ambiguously called 'God'



 • US laws and policies, by corrupt design, use power to feed the avaricious instead of using power to "provide for the general welfare."


Not being an omnipotent god, Potus can not govern alone. When he feared rejecting the glittery sunk-cost fallacy of continuing a war-based imperium, he capitulated to the elites by legitimizing the unconstitutional acts of Potus Bush II. 



 

Potus must acknowledge that only Providence makes the US an exception among all nations, the Big Lie of exceptionalism. With that claim arises an alleged right to extend power as the elites wish it extended.



• The ambiguity of ‘god’ permits fundies to fantasize that it refers solely to the first person of a xian godhead who suffers multiple personality disorder.



Instead, Federal Courts have consistently upheld that God (as Providence) --  is a one-size-fits-all deity, an It. It appears as the deistic divinity, the west’s traditional cosmic clockmaker. However, theistic traits always leach into the pristine concept of an indifferent deity. Prayer to Providence makes no sense. The god-of-the-state acquires personhood, masculinity, moral authority, and a general fondness of religious institutions which collect money in his name.



The courts will reject any claim that the notorious 'In God we trust' be removed from bills and coins because it violates the so-called establishment clause of the Constitution. 'God' as 'Providence', as god-of-the-state, as the god of western tradition as plays no favorites -- xian, jew, muslim, hindu, buddhist, new age, wiccan -- all are welcome.



Unless, you are an atheist. Then, as Potus Bush I said, you "are not fit to be a citizen."



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