Ireland tells the Vatican how it feels

I am elated to hear that Ireland has officially told the Vatican they will no longer tolerate their evils and closed their embassy as Reuters reports. Citing that the embassy has "no economic return" Ireland announced the closing Thursday night and will be the first major country with a strong Catholic history to cut off ties with the Vatican.

This is fantastic news, I can only hope other countries follow suit and show their disgust at the ongoing horrors and human suffering brought into the world by the Vatican. Here is Enda Kenny's brave and moving speech about the Vatican's child abuse and cover-up he gave earlier this year.

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Comment by Trish E. Harmon on November 5, 2011 at 3:14am

This is really moving, and words spoken so harshly by a practicing Catholic. I am so impressed. It's about time to bring the Catholic church to its knees. I hope this is only the beginning. Thank you for the post.

Comment by Michael Gibson on November 5, 2011 at 5:05am
The entire u.s. needs to see this.
Comment by Heather Spoonheim on November 5, 2011 at 12:25pm

I saw that speech earlier, but I didn't hear about them closing their embassy until reading this.  It's so great to see a nation finally standing up to those bullies.  I truly hope other countries will follow suit.

Comment by The Doctor on November 5, 2011 at 2:53pm

And this would be why I have "faith" in humanity..

Comment by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on November 5, 2011 at 6:32pm

This is wonderful! The more CHRISTIANS and christian nations (especially Catholic ones) that dare to stand up to the Vatican, the more likely the Vatican is to pay attention. Afterall, what would scare the religious authorities more than the disillusionment and disgust of their own flock? What would terrify them more than the threat of that flock fleeing the church and never returning? 

One look at the 1500 year history of the Roman Catholic Church reveals that the corruption, hypocrisy, bullying, greed, and elitism of the highest orders of the church goes back to nearly the very beginning. What makes the church pay attention? Dissent.... WIDESPREAD dissent!

For hundreds of years it was a capital crime to translate the Bible into vernacular... then along came Martin Luther and a massive wave of rebellion against the church spread across the European continent with the force of a tsunami, forcing the Church to pay attention... because the church couldn't stop the revolution by simply burning people at the stake or threatening them with excommunication.

 

When the Church gets out of line (as it has off and on for 1500 years), it is up to whole nations of catholic people to rise up and cry "Nay!" at once. Believe me! The Vatican are politicians... not holy men! They will pay attention when their authority is under massive threat by hundreds of thousands or even better, millions of people fed up with their shit.

Way to go Ireland!! Next I want to hear from Italy, Spain, France, and Belgium! I want to hear from South-Eastern Germany! I want to hear from Mexico and Argentina, Brazil, Guatemala, Costa Rica, and Liechtenstein! It's time for the Catholic world to rise up and say no as a group!

Comment by Bryan B on November 5, 2011 at 6:35pm

This has me very excited. I'm doing my best to spread it around because mainstream media seems to be staying away from it. Make sure link and share with everyone you know guys! Our freedom of speech is the only way anything as powerful as it is disgusting as the Vatican can be brought to its knees .

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on November 5, 2011 at 8:06pm

Most of the people I have spoken with (here in Dublin) are either happy with the decision to shut the embassy or just don’t care. The only ones upset and bothered are the church hierarchy because of a further erosion of their power and status and then some of the remaining sheep. I won’t bother quoting too many of them as I am sure you can all imagine it. One person did say to me that she believed the Irish government was showing “a great disrespect” to the faithful Catholics of Ireland. I asked her to canvas the views of the thousands of clerical abuse victims for their ideas on what “disrespect” means to them. Jesus must be turning in his grave.

It is difficult to convey the feelings and views of people here in Ireland about the Catholic Church, especially during a serious recession when people generally have more pressing issues to deal with. Ireland has changed so much recently. Evolved and matured would be better words. I sense though that a very sizable majority of people under 40 have no involvement or interest in the Church. It is not that they are all Atheists (I am trying my best!!) but it is just that it plays no important role in their lives.

Two gay men were on prime time TV tonight talking about their recent marriage. This is completely “normalised” here now. Nobody is “bothered” by this even though only a few years ago the Church would have been ranting about it during Sunday sermons tomorrow. Now if they try to be a moral authority their voices are immediately challenged by the mainstream media.

Once our Prime Minister made that powerful and eloquent speech there was no going back. Hopefully in a few years time we can look back and say that 2011 was the pivotal year in the removal of the Church from State affairs and the year when enough people realised how unnecessary the Catholic Church is in a modern democracy to ever allow it to get a foothold in the national psyche ever again.

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on November 5, 2011 at 8:17pm

Wonderfully put, Reg.  I can never wrap my mind around how Catholics feel the secular world should show 'respect' for their institution above all others.

Comment by Ronny Castro on November 5, 2011 at 10:39pm
I would say: not only US should see this. The whole world must!
Comment by Alyson Mitchell on November 6, 2011 at 2:16am

@reg, 

 

Alyson Mitchell :Likes: this. 

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