I was distraut to hear my girlfriend's son is going to a Young Life meeting tonight. Can our former christian members shed some light on the organization? Are we talking Camp Jesus type of crap? Help!

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Comment by Cesar Deicide on October 12, 2011 at 6:36pm
My starting point towards atheism was figuring out they [the church] were trying to hypnotize me, using my everyday issues and give them an imaginary solution.

My advice: Talk to them about hypnotism, it might reduce the damage if they are able to recognize it before or while happening.

There are basic and very fun science experiments that you can do with their explanations to promote critical thinking. It'll be helpful in the future.

Finally, do not 'forbid' her to sent her child to the meeting it will not solve anything.
Comment by kris feenstra on October 12, 2011 at 6:46pm

I've heard of the Canadian division.  I think most of it is fairly common youth group and summer camp activities.  I'd wager that they probably do offer some positive experiences and values for youth that even non-Christians can appreciate.

 

To the best of my knowledge, they don't represent a single Christian denomination, and aren't YECs or bigots.  I don't think they'd be pushing "pro-life" or anti-gay-marriage agendas, or making bold statements on any of the overly political issues.  I know that bible study is supposed to be involved, and staff are supposed to soft sell Christianity in their interactions with youth, but I don't think there's any hard core indoctrination going on.  

 

Is he religious?  Could be he's just looking for a place to hang out with people his age outside of school... a place where he can hang out with girls his own age, perhaps.

Comment by Marc Poulin on October 12, 2011 at 6:59pm
Comment by Cristynfaye on October 12, 2011 at 7:12pm

Lots of people go to young life and don't really make anything out of it.  From my experience, it's just kind of a fun, hang-out kind of thing.  I don't think it will hurt him to go to young life, as long as he's smart enough to make up his own mind about things.

Comment by Robert Karp on October 12, 2011 at 7:40pm
Thanks guys! @cesar, I would never forbid her to do anything. Besides she told me I could "unindocrinate" him the next night.
Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on October 13, 2011 at 3:06am

Wouldn't worry - I have just found this on the internet - http://www.younglife.org.au/

I am assuming it's the same group!

 

Part of the doctrine - 'it is a sin to bore kids with the bible', way to go.

 

It's looks like just fun - when teenagers should be socializing in a healthy way. I would send my kids.

Comment by Robert Karp on October 13, 2011 at 9:21am

I would send my kids

 

No way!  I also read up on the group and their goal is to create young evangelizers out of innocent children and then those "leaders" go into high school and then college to make more people accept the word. Michele Bachmann was a Young Lifer and that's all I need to know. And although they accept homosexuals if they are looking to accept christ, they are not allowed to hold staff, leadership or volunteer positions. I don't really care how much fun they have.

Comment by Cody Kirchner on October 13, 2011 at 12:42pm

    No, we're not quite talking camp jesus or anything, we're talking sugar coating here. Basically what Young Life does is take the christian "ethics" and "morals" and puts them into events, activities and lessons that kids can understand and enjoy. So its basically cool-ade flavored arsenic, if you get my metaphor. They are indoctrinating the children, but they're doing it with bright colors, stupid music and feel-good inspirational stories that teach them to be "better christians".

  My favorite memory was a skit they did that involved the live band we had at our young life. They started out with nice, soft rock music, and had all the actors play nice and follow the rules. Then they'd switch to rock music, (which was exactly what I listened to at the time), and the actors started miming smoking and drinking and that kind of thing.

  The message they were trying to send was that you should be more like the soft rock music than the hard rock music. The lesson they actually sent was, if you listen to this kind of music, you obviously smoke and drink, and are going to hell. What made it even better was the fact that one of the songs they played during the hard rock period was a song by Rise Against; who happened to be a completely straight edge band.

 So that's what young life is, its chocolate coated, stupid, easily seen through, "lets try to be hip so that religion doesn't look quite so evil" feel-good session with your kids.

Comment by Kairan Nierde on October 13, 2011 at 4:26pm

My only experience with Young Life is second hand, but I formed a strong negative opinion about it.  At the time I was a "faithful christian."  When I was in High School my best friend told me about the weekly meetings in at a certain house.  Apparently it was wildly popular among the wild and popular.  :-)  The attendees were all from the top social circles in our High School, so I was surprised to find that Young Life is a type of "christian" youth group.  I was very skeptical about the true focus of the meetings, given the personalities involved and their behavioral track record.  It puzzled me really...what did a bunch of hard partiers, egotists, and jocks want with a christian youth group?  I nosed around a bit and learned more about the Fraternity-like atmosphere...I turned down an invitation after I heard about a couple of kids having to drink raw eggs and swallow a live goldfish to prove...to prove only peer pressure knows what. That was too bizarre for me.  I decided it was a cult.  Lol!  Now I think they were just really, really bored kids who would rather be playing more exciting games, if you catch my drift.  Still, swallowing goldfish...don't most youth groups have adult supervisors?

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