A fan died falling out of the stands at a Ranger game. Josh Hamilton, who is a Christian and credits Jesus Christ for helping him get through his drug and alcohol probelms, feels horrible about it. First of all shouldn't he say well the fan is now in a "better place" or curse God for allowing this to happen. He thanks God, why not curse God? If there was a God I could not worship such a cruel being to leave a family without a husband, father, son, brother, etc. I would love to see Hamilton curse God but wee all know this will not happen

 

 

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Comment by Michael Marrero on July 8, 2011 at 1:27am
You can't expect a logical response from that kind of person.
Comment by Rev. Chris Pagan on July 8, 2011 at 2:31am
When you figure this one out, let me know as well.
Comment by Chris on July 8, 2011 at 9:05am
It's conditioning. We all can,and we al do, create elaborate and wrongheaded explanations to square what we expect and believe with what we actually experience. We are inclined to believe our own dogma - that's why science wasn't obvious through human history and needed to be developed as a discipline. And this player has been given a template which is very successfully "evolved" to create a positive spin for all things the gods of his faith do or allow. He is probably fairly bright, and he can create justifications that are easily plausible to himself for how a tragedy can be a good thing when viewed through this template.

I recently heard a story on NPR about how intelligence in humans may have exploded as a result of our trying to do just this sort of thing: persuade each other and ourselves that our preconceptions and misinterpretations are accurate. I have not seen any studies, but on some level everything I have ever seen the noncritical minded do and say IS the study. It makes very good sense to me. Whether the study is right or not, we ARE very good at fooling ourselves. Which is why we need evidence and review, whenever we can get it. With emphasis on the review.
Comment by Kevin on July 8, 2011 at 8:30pm
First God did not kill him, second your right religion argues the beauty of God and death would bring you closer to that reality so it should be a joyous event...now stop this misunderstanding of God, all atheist ague religion so if your right stop reasoning with their teachings to argue or support your thoughts...if we are right and religion is wrong then their words are void so stop hating a God based on those faults ideals...stop suggesting it is a he first and then stop with the character assassinations, if God is anything it is an entity, therefor it does not feel, think or respond any anyway that can be calculated by a human form so remove any human characteristics from the equation if you feel atheists are right...so stop talking about a God who wants you to fear him...that's what they say to control themselves, we know by now that that does not make it so...your better of looking for the truth subjectively not objectively...perhaps?
Comment by Joe Schmegheggi on July 8, 2011 at 8:46pm

I don't get it. Do you or Josh believe that "God" plucked the fan out of the stands like a tornado and threw him over the side? Why does one have to curse "God?" And how does Josh know the fan is in a better place? Maybe he went to the other place (LOL). Since you seem to want to believe in something, why not pick a religion whose deity doesn't kill its worshipers?

 

Comment by Steve on July 8, 2011 at 9:23pm
God always gets all of the credit, but never the blame. Remember that humans are weak, worthless and inherently sinful creatures. They are responsible for everything bad that is happening.
Comment by David Eisen on July 8, 2011 at 11:07pm
I don't think either Josh or I believe God "plucked" the fan out of the stands but you never hear that they go to the other place, they always say they are in a better place
Comment by Rick on July 9, 2011 at 12:03am

Curse god? Who would do that whenwe all know it was a part of god’s plan to have him die in such a horrific way,with his son and millions of viewers watching. Is god not merciful? How dare
anyone say otherwise! god is good…

Comment by Kevin on July 9, 2011 at 12:57am
Why do people think the entity God let anyone die or live...Jesus was not tortured and killed for someones sins (and what is a sin anyway, stop thumping) he died cause he spoke against the priests, would not join them and was gaining popularity being an atheist so he had to go...he would have known this would happen and he would not have cared, he was on a mission impossible for any of you to comprehend but he died for no one's sins he died for the truth...period...religion says he dies for them...wait a second don't we disagree with what they say???So why are you consistently questioning through quote their idiocy...
Comment by Stephanie on July 9, 2011 at 12:58am

Religious people believe that God "has a plan" and there is a reason these people die. But what I believe is that it was merrily a tragic accident. I mean, people who get into drugs and alcohol do so not because they are "misguided" or pulled in by "the devil", they are troubled, they've been brought up in poor circumstances and turn to drugs and alcohol to fill a void. I believe that there is no true evil. People don't do bad things without reason. People don't decide to be a bad person just "because." The types of people most suseptible to addictions are those with cold, unloving, uncaring, verbally or physically abusive parents, or children who've been molested, or have psychological issues that may or may not be fixed with therapy. I don't think there needs to be a "blame" on anything, especially a non-existent being. We are always looking for people to blame, we need to realize that isn't important, nor is it worth spending time caring about. What should matter is the guy himself, the fact that he lived, and that he had a chance to influence people in his life, and that he will be remembered. That's what should be considered, not where he's going to go when he dies.

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