I've been thinking a lot about this whole burning the Koran business. So much that I woke up less than an hour ago thinking about it to the point where I think I should get it all out on 'paper'. I've had some Atheist friends talk about this on facebook and I have to admit, I've been less then honest when they've brought it up about my real standpoint. Some of these friends also being friends of mine on here so I might be exposing myself, meh.

So here's the thing. I really trully don't understand why so many of my fellow nonbelievers are not only okay with burning the Koran, but seem to support it to the point of continuing to burn other religious books and the like. It's not about the not offending people so much either, I could care less if people are offended. It's how hypocritical it is to me.

One of the things we, in general, are against when it come to most religions, is how archaic it can get. How people follow books and rules established hundreds of years ago without question. How books like the bible are cool with stoning women and gays, sacrificing animals, genital mutilation, so on. But you know what else is archaic? Burning books. This is something these same people we're against for the most part have done over and over again in our history. Whole library's of stories and histories gone because some guy said god doesn't like it.

I understand the symbolism of what's being done here. I understand it's legal and isn't much different from burning the flag for example. I also agree with what George Carlin once said, "Symbols are for the simple-minded." And I also know that burning a book isn't necesarily going to hurt anyone itself, it's not burning a person. But I can't justify burning something simply because I disagree.

Burning the Koran isn't going to make Islam go away, niether would burning the bible, or any other book. Two negatives don't make a positive, this isn't math.

I love books. Books pretty much saved my life when I was young and had no friends. Honestly I daydream about a superpower that would allow me to read every book ever written in the world. No matter what it's about, what language, even if it's horrible. So maybe this makes me biased. It confuses me a bit esspecially since I also have a thing about being too attatched to inanimate objects. But again on the otherside I'm also OCD and there are certain things that are VERY hard for me to do or not do that have no logical basis in my brain whatsoever.

I knwo some of you disagree but maybe some of you agree. And I know no matter what's said on either side probably isn't going to change anything but I just needed to get it out there. I think we're better than these people, we don't need to do what they would do to piss people off. Thanks for reading?

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Comment by MicroKat on April 7, 2011 at 3:55pm

I can understand why people might get angry at someone burning their religious book, but I can't think of many (if any) other religions that would act this violently. If someone burnt a Bible, I would be shocked to hear that a group of Christians in Britain had killed some people in a protest. I would say that Muslims in the Middle East need to show that they can be capable of some form of rationality, a form of rationality that Muslims in the West already have. 


I know that for them it's a highly contentious issue but killing people does not help them in their 'fight' to get people to stop burning the Koran. The people who burn Koran's do so because of this sort of reaction. If they stop reacting so violently then (in my opinion) people won't burn the Koran, they won't see the need as it would stop being seen as a violent religion. 

Comment by Dustin on April 8, 2011 at 12:54am
I think if everyone burned a Koran then The Muslims wouldn't be able to react to every one of them and maybe they would chill the fuck out.  But I dunno ... all that burning might help further along Global warming :)
Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on April 8, 2011 at 1:44am

Fundamental religions of all persuasions are like a hornets nest. Christian, Muslim, whatever. Thwack it with a stick. and they will fly at you, stingers ready to plunge into you. There is no reasoning with any fundamentalist. I wonder what would have happened if a Muslim burnt the bible in front of a mosque.

The bloke who burnt the koran is also full of hate and stupidity. "My religion is better than your religion".

When we know they are all knuckle grazing neanderthals. It does absolutely no good to attack anybody. Keep calm, cool, simply works better. If an atheist goes on the attack, it simply makes them attack back.

Both the pastor and the muslims were throwing tantrums.

I just don't give anybody ammunition. I ALWAYS take the high road - with a smile, which in my mind is patronizing. Works for me. If somebody mentions koran, muslims, bible, christians, whatever, that's when I say, with great gusto and pride - I am an Atheist. Fundamentalists are never going to calm down, they are never going to change their mind - they get angry because they are losing - more and more Atheists are coming out of the closet - we as Atheists certainly have to become more vocal, and hope, by the internet, and seeing all the dumb things religious people do - ex-religious people will join us.

Comment by Zombie Atheist on April 12, 2011 at 7:52am
Thanks again everybody. A lot of you made really good points and helped give me something to think about. I guess it is best to just leave it alone.... Just wasn't sitting right. I still don't feel right about burning books, and it still seems really dumb and silly but I feel less upset? about it I guess? Meh.
Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on April 13, 2011 at 3:13am

Good for you - it's a real worry when people are killed over a book - but that's how backward these people are - it's education that's the key.


I found this quote on the internet, I don't know who the author is, but it says it all.


The common dogma of fundamentalists is fear of modern knowledge, inability to cope with the fast change in a scientific-technological society, and the real breakdown in apparent moral order in recent years. That is why hate is the major fuel, fear is the cement of the movement, and superstitious ignorance is the best defence against the dangerous new knowledge. When you bring up arguments that cast serious doubts on their cherished beliefs you are not simply making a rhetorical point, you are threatening their whole Universe and their immortality. That provokes anger and quite frequently violence. Unfortunately you cannot reason with them and you even risk violence in confronting them. Their numbers will decline only when society stabilizes, and adapts to modernity.


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