Bill Nye Boo'd In Texas For Saying The Moon Reflects The Sun

Bill Nye, the harmless children's edu-tainer known as "The Science Guy," managed to offend a select group of adults in Waco, Texas at a presentation, when he suggested that the moon does not emit light, but instead reflects the light of the sun.

As even most elementary-school graduates know, the moon reflects the light of the sun but produces no light of its own.

But don't tell that to the good people of Waco, who were "visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence," according to the Waco Tribune.

Nye was in town to participate in McLennan Community College's Distinguished Lecture Series. He gave two lectures on such unfunny and adult topics as global warming, Mars exploration, and energy consumption.

But nothing got people as riled as when he brought up Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."

The lesser light, he pointed out, is not a light at all, but only a reflector.

At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children, thus ensuring that people across America would read about the incident and conclude that Waco is as nutty as they'd always suspected.

This story originally appeared in the Waco Tribune, but the newspaper has mysteriously pulled its story from the online version, presumably to avoid further embarrassment.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/04/06/040620...

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Comment by Heather Spoonheim on December 5, 2012 at 12:09pm

The point, Stephen, is that the bible is factually wrong because it wasn't written/inspired by some all-knowing deity.  It has the sun being created after the earth, it has outer space being filled with water and the sky being a firm dome that separates the water above from the water below.  It has the rest of the cosmos being created as a mere afterthought - after the sun and the moon.  The greater/lesser light issue was just a Bill's way of politely pointing out that one cannot learn about the cosmos from a Bronze Age book of superstitious drivel.

The reason the story is interesting to us is that Christians are generally incapable of dealing with factual claims and just act like children - storming out.  It's really a cute little tale about the intellectually repugnant state of destroying a human mind with cult indoctrination.  Ok?  Thank you.

Comment by Ken Hughes on December 5, 2012 at 12:19pm

Well said Heather, well said indeed.  I've been an atheist for almost 30-years after being a skeptic from earliest memory and an agnostic up until I declared my non-belief after being dragged to an Assembly of doG for a year by my missus.  I now refer to myself as a "Card-carrying atheist" because I do precisely that.  My calling cards have the Greek atheos under my name and I am not hesitant to give them out even here in deepest, darkest Wise County Texas (the "Wise" name is an oxymoron for a Texas county.  A local friend and I have started the Wise Free Thinkers & Atheist MeetUp group and meet ever other Sunday @ 12:30 in the local Starbucks.  "Bill Ney the Science Guy" rules!!!!!

Comment by archaeopteryx on December 5, 2012 at 12:44pm

It matters a great deal, Stephen, because it indicates that those who wrote the Bible had no clue as to how their universe worked, and if they were "inspired" by a creator who made everything, one must wonder why they were given bad information. One can only assume, a) their god fed them false facts, or b), they made them up on their own, without any "heavenly inspiration," which, by extension, implies that if one part of the Bible was not divinely inspired, then either none of it was, and is subject to the same flaws throughout, or that we must pick and choose which parts were divinely inspired, and which were invented by fertile, but inaccurate, imaginations of men. Which really leads us to question if in fact, ANY of the Bible was "inspired," or if it was, how incompetant a leader their god must have be, not to have done a more efficient job of informing his followers factually.

Even your last statement is innacurate - have you honestly NEVER seen the moon out in the daytime? And completely absent from sight at night? How effective is an absentee ruler?

You're young and naive - go read some science books COSMOS, by Carl Sagan leaps to mind, if you only have time for one - then come back and re-read the Bible. Maybe by then, you will have acquired some degree of wisdom.

Comment by archaeopteryx on December 5, 2012 at 1:11pm

Food for thought, Stephen --

"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," say Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that" and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic." --

Douglas Adams
"A Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

If it were only so easy --

Comment by archaeopteryx on December 5, 2012 at 1:48pm

Stephen, your earlier comments were so simplistic and smacked of naivete, that I misinterpreted them. I retract any remarks that in hindsight might appear patronizing. Once you revealed what I can only hope is your true self, you strike me as someone who would fit right in. Welcome!

Comment by archaeopteryx on December 5, 2012 at 2:48pm

More accurate to say, "The main, big picture, is that the sun's light, as reflected off the moon, often governs the night." Unless Gen 1:16 says something to that equivalent, it is incorrect.

RE: "and im not a typical young idiot." - as your subsequent comments attest. I don't need to research your credentials to determine the quality of your comments, I have credentials of my own, but here, I rise or fall based on what I say, rather on what I did. I accept you at your word.

Comment by archaeopteryx on December 5, 2012 at 2:52pm

Some of my  best friends are excellent chemists - their meth labs hardly ever explode --

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on December 5, 2012 at 3:27pm

@Stephen Russell

And what I said was Bill took a very softball approach to pointing out that the bible is dead wrong about the cosmos - he's much more diplomatic than I - yet the typical Christian cannot address facts and only become emotional when any aspect of their cult scripture is thrown into question.

This thread was posted almost 4 years ago and the only people who keep bringing it back to life are Christians.  Read through the 33 pages of comments and you'll see the thread dies and then some Christian shows up here to tell us how we are all totally wrong about Bill, or Bill was out of line, or grammatically a case could be made for that verse based on the English translation - and that has been going on for 4 years.  It's not Atheists keeping this thread alive.

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on December 6, 2012 at 1:24am

Outer space is not filled with water - astronauts wear space suits, not scuba gear.  They sky is not a solid dome covering us like some sort of snow globe.  The earth did not come into existence before the sun.  On these matters the bible is dead wrong and I'm willing to bet my life on it.

The story is #3 in google because Christians just won't stop coming here and beating a dead horse on the very issues I just mentioned.

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on December 6, 2012 at 1:27am

Christian 'scientists' do nothing but try to shoe-horn Bronze Age doctrines into our modern understanding of the universe - in spite of understanding how it works rather than to better understand how it works.

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