Sometimes being different in society leaves you with little ability to show tact and stand up for yourself. Christopher Hitchens being ill brings forth the notion of praying for Atheists. After considering the notion for a month or so beyond my personal loss early this year, I'm reaching what feels like a conclusion. Praying for an Atheist is not only rude, but it's self-serving and I'd thank religionists to stop.

A member of TA recently suffered a loss. On their Facebook page a friend noted something that went like this... "I know that you don't pray, so I'll do it for you." The Atheist is left not able to respond to the comment honestly without being rude. The intent is great, but it's a rude kick in the balls when it happens to me.

When My Father died I did an Atheist Funeral. There was no question left as to what just happened. There was no question as to what he believed. One of his friends got up and told the crowd that he had blinked his acceptance of Jesus a few days before he died. It's always a deathbed retraction. Repeating the lie may have made him and a few others feel better, but it damages the memory that my father left. The dignity with which he faced life and death. It's an insult as to how he chose to live it.

I'm reaching a point where I find prayers for me to be an insult. It's an insult to my abilities to deal with life. An insult to who I am because it's certainly no secret as to who I am. How would a Christian feel if a Muslim said that I'll face Mecca and pray to Allah for you, because I know that you don't do it. Isn't that insinuating that the way that you face life isn't good enough? There aren't many ways to come across in a more insulting manner.

So it's time to stand for myself, consequences be dammed. If you pray for me, I'm going to ask you not to. I don't want you to not credit me for the results of my life. If a god were to exist, I don't want you to think that I don't earn what I get in life because you prayed for me. Let the chips fall where they may. I can deal with life and I ask that even with the best of intents, that you let me do that and credit me for the results.

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Comment by James on August 17, 2010 at 9:14pm
Luckily I haven't had any theists saying they were going to pray for me. But if they did, I'm sure that I would thank them for the thought, but the fact that they care is what matter to me. Not they Prayer itself. But if they don't get the hint, I feel that I'd have to just ask them not to.
Comment by Gaytor on August 20, 2010 at 12:59pm
So what I have to finish is a book called My Message Book. Link The book just sets forth what to do in the event of my death. The accounts, where the money is stashed and how your funeral goes, your thoughts, etc. I am an organ donor as well, but haven't gotten around to donating my body. It's on the to do list and my family knows.

As far as the book goes, it's the venture of a family friend. I like the way it's all set up. I don't mean this to be spam, it's just the premise that I like and since the subject led here... (If any moderators think that it's too close to the line of spam, PM me and I'll nuke it. We don't allow spam but it can be a subjective call.)

But I like the idea of having my own writing or as Neal plans, a video. Say what you want pastor, but when you are done with your shenanigans, let me speak for myself.
Comment by Myles O'Donnell on August 22, 2010 at 2:41am
i wouldn't get insulted by something that someone says as long as they were being sincere in showing they really cared. if a religious person says they will truly pray for me, i would welcome it and thank them just because of the nature of the gesture
Comment by Johnny on August 22, 2010 at 9:39am

Comment by Carolanne on August 22, 2010 at 10:19am
Oh, it feels great to hear that someone has rhe same views as me. Thank you. I completely agree.
Comment by Helen Bascom on August 22, 2010 at 11:11am
I find the offer to pray for me to be offensive and arrogant - as if an omnipotent being (if there was such a thing) would actually take note of what one delusional Christian has to say about anything. Seriously? bah! Then there are the condescending prayer warriors who speak to you as if you are a child incapable of knowing what is good for you. "I will pray for you" sounds a lot like "Since you don't know how to look out for your own spiritual wellbeing I will do it for you." I don't mind being rude to Christians or any other cult that knocks on my door spreading their end times propaganda.
Comment by Wayne Wilson on August 22, 2010 at 11:20am
prayer is a great way to do nothing for someone while pretending to do something.
the psychological effect of having someone pray for you can be upliting, to know that others are thinking of you in a loving light is reassuring. but it is a placebo that fades in the light of morning.
except perhaps, for the one praying. they stay trapped and smug in their belief-bubble. until the shit hits THEIR fan.
Comment by Venus Lovejam on August 22, 2010 at 11:45am
All great arguments. When someone says they'll pray for me, I feel I'm patronizing them by letting them, yet annoyed that they'd do such a thing. I'm always offended when someone tells me, "god bless you". My dad says this a lot, but my brain has interpreted this as, "Have a nice day". I repeat this mantra so it doesn't piss me off every single time he says it, daily. At the same time, I feel bullet proof when someone says something to me that means absolutely nothing. I'm not worried that I'll be suddenly blessed and that I'll dissolve like the wicked witch or a vampire. They're speaking a language that doesn't resonate with me, so their prayers and wishful thinking is wasted on me. It's all about them, right?
Comment by Wayne Wilson on August 22, 2010 at 2:22pm
i don't think is IS 'all about them' really. it's about them, yes, forcing their belief upon you, and your lack of a reaction just makes them think you agree with their view.
religion has become so prevalent in the world because people were afraid to speak out before. they could have and were killed for their non-belief.
those days are done. as will be religion.
Comment by Karen Seard on August 22, 2010 at 2:37pm
Wonderful disertation. I loved it!


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