It went like this...
Her: We're talking to people about the state of the world, what do you
think about it?
Me: I notice them both carrying bibles so I figure I wouldn't waste
their time and I say....Well it needs improving, but I don't believe in
any Gods that have ever been created by man. Not Thor, Isis, Mythras,
none of the many Hindu Gods, and also not the one you believe in.
Her: Oh so how do you know what to do, how do you know whats right or
Me: I try to do as much good for people as I can, and as little harm as
possible. I think we probably share that.
Her: But that came from the bible.
Me: No, I don't think. I think people always knew that it's better to do
things that have a positive outcome, and do less of things that have a
negative outcome. I don't think we would have evolved this far if didn't
know this all along.
Her: But the bible is true because the prophecies came true.
Me: The bible also offers rules for regulating slavery, and says eating
shellfish is an abomination, and that wearing certain blends of cotton
are also an abomination
Her: Laughs and disagrees.
Me: Tells her to re-read leviticus.
Me: I can't be expected to believe the bible has the end of the world
right, when it was off on the creation of the world by over 4.5 billion
Her: But that's a big maybe because you believe in the *theory* of
Me: I don't 'believe' in it, I 'understand' it. Do you believe the
planets move around the sun?
Her: I know they do because we can prove that.
Me: Well that is called the Heliocentric *Theory*. In science, things
that are proven by overwhelming evidence are called Theories, like the
theory of Gravity.
Her: But I can't believe that we came from apes.
Me: You don't have to believe that, because that's not what happened.
Apes and Humans share a common ancestor. A mutation in the genetic code
of this species allowed it to thrive in its environment and it went on
to create hairless primates who walk upright and have large brains.
Her: Have you ever seen a human evolve?
Me: No, and I'm not supposed to...mammalian evolution takes place over
millions of years. The evolution of much smaller organisms have been
witnessed in laboratories though.
Her: I admit I don't understand it all, but the idea of God creating
everything just makes more sense to me.
Me: Well I wouldn't shoot myself in the foot like that if I were you.
Just because you admit you either haven't had the time, desire, or
ability to understand evolution doesn't mean it's a good idea to resort
to "god must have did it".
Her: No I understand it enough, I have read about it, actually did you
know there are lots of scientists who have left the idea of Evolution
and don't support that any more?
Me: I don't believe there are lots, but in all professions you have
those who want to go against the accepted position, especially when
religion gets involved. I am sure there are lots of Jehovas Witnesses
who have left your religion, but I don't think you would want to suggest
that it means your religion is wrong.
At this point her friend who was quiet the entire time looked at her
watch, and they said they had to get going. What really makes this story
though is that when they came to the door I had no shirt on, so I
grabbed a brown wool throw and wrapped it around my upper body and stood
there for 20 minutes in it talking to them...that must have made it
much harder for them to take me seriously.
I was also glad they left before I got into the whole Craig Venter
thing, I wanted to make her think a little, not send her home to fix a
blank gaze at the wall wondering why her world came crashing down on her
after talking to a dude wrapped in a brown throw.