Carnivore or Herbivore ???
I seem to have created some debate. I guess I stepped on a sacred cow or better yet the sacred Big Mac. Debate is a good thing. It is how most of us became atheists in the first place. We began to question the wisdom of the established religions. We began to cast doubt where slavery, sexism, bigotry, and ignorance are supported by dogma.
This is an argument that goes back and forth; all kinds of answerer's are given on both sides of the debate. There is a way to find out and that is to examine the evolutionary anatomy of the human body to see how its digestive track has evolved. This is short compilation of physiology findings concerning carnivores and herbivores. I used the charts provided on.

Here is an answer to the question as to whether or not humans are herbivores or carnivores. Milton R. Mills MD. is the author of "The Comparative anatomy of eating" I suggest that you visit the link to see his chart,
Comparative physiology shows how the human body has evolved. The idea that primitive man ate a diet of primarily of meat appears to be flawed. At best early man was an omnivore with the greatest part of his diet being plant based like we see in gorillas, orangutans and chimpanzees.
Let’s look at comparative anatomy of herbivores and carnivores. There are many similarities, but there are very distinct differences. First off herbivores have no claws; Carnivores have claws, and long sharp teeth on the end of a long snout for ripping and tearing hide and flesh. Herbivores molars are not pointed but flat for grinding. Herbivores jaws have the ability to move sideways to aid in their mastication. Carnivores and omnivores have very little sideways jaw movement and swallow their food whole. Herbivores have pores in their skin to perspire through; Carnivores perspire through the tongue to cool down their bodies. Carnivores have evolved very acid saliva with no enzymes for digestion. Herbivores have alkaline saliva with ptyalin enzymes to help digest fruits and grains. Carnivores have very strong hydrochloric stomach acid to help digest flesh. Herbivores have evolved stomach acid twenty times weaker than carnivores. Carnivores have evolved a relative short digestive track to pass the material through quickly so as to not absorb too many fats. Herbivores have evolved very long digestive tracks in order to aid in extracting nutrition from plants.
Now let’s look at human anatomy and see how the human has evolved. Humans have no claws, their teeth are flat and their jaws move sideways for grinding and chewing their food before swallowing. Humans have pores in their skin that they perspire through to cool themselves. Humans have evolved hydrochloric stomach acid twenty times weaker than carnivores. Humans have alkaline saliva with ptyalin enzymes for digesting fruits and grains. Humans have evolved a very long digestive tract like other herbivores.
When you examine how the human anatomy has evolved it appears that we are herbivores. There is a lot of evidence but one of the most notable is that humans will generally become ill or dye when eating uncooked flesh like a wild carnivore. Humans do not contain the stomach enzymes that kill harmful bacteria and parasites that carnivores do. Also all carnivores produce enzymes that neutralize the uric acid in their diet, humans produce no such enzymes. When a human eats a diet high in animal products they suffer a number of heath problem associated with uric acid. Gout, kidney stones, kidney failure, arthritis, certain cancers, cardio vascular disease and now uric acid has been connected to chronic brain ischemia.
Humans do not digest animal proteins well, and animal based foods cause many detrimental health problems for humans over time. Second because humans are anatomical herbivores we thrive on plant proteins. Comparative anatomy shows herbivore physiologic evolution in humans. Dennis Renner

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Tags: carnivore, evolution, herbivore, vegan, vegetarian

Comment by Dave G on November 29, 2009 at 11:41pm
Omnivore here. I like my carrots and pears, dammit.

'Carnivore or herbivore' is a blatantly false dichotomy, and is clearly being presented to fit in with the 'Unless humans eat only meat, they are not carnivores, therefore they are herbivores' agenda of the source material.
Comment by Misty: Baytheist Living! on November 29, 2009 at 11:47pm
Someone post this on the forum so we can debate it in an organized fashion!
I want to weigh in without looking like a dick by keeping it going after a mod has asked to take it there instead.

~is that subtle enough for you all?~
Comment by Reggie on November 29, 2009 at 11:49pm
We are talking about eating meat and you throw "dick" in there. Yeah, real subtle, Misty. ;-)
Comment by Misty: Baytheist Living! on November 30, 2009 at 7:03pm
Reggie is so on to me...
Comment by B. on November 30, 2009 at 7:57pm
We're omnivores.

Your citations & references are an insult to science. Do your research again, properly this time.
Comment by Rhonda on January 19, 2010 at 11:22pm
I had Biology class last semester in college & my teacher is a very educated extremely intelligent man. He basically stated if you eat too much meat, you get heart problems and if you eat too much green stuff you get cancer. He suggests eating a balanced diet.
Comment by Dennis Paul Renner on January 20, 2010 at 7:40pm
Vegans have the lowest cancer rates of any dietary group. (John Robbins, Diet For a New America) (The China Study by T. Colin Campbell)
Comment by Brad on February 5, 2010 at 7:58am
I love how the comment above about "we're omnivores" talks about citations and references so harshly but then does not present any. Just like a Christian would react to their world view being challenged.
Comment by Rhysun Ewen Gorey-Twisten on October 13, 2010 at 1:15pm - Humans Are NOT Omnivores - Humans Are Omnivores

I'm a frugivore...
Comment by Dennis Paul Renner on October 13, 2010 at 9:00pm
Thanks for the links. I think in the end our frugivore and vegan diets will provide us better health because our bodies are better adapted to these diets. They also reduce our carbon foot print which is a benefit to everyone.


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