A planet without men.

Dont I wish I lived on a planet where men dont exist, 

Equality hardly exists in this planet of males and females

Hermaphrodites and Androgynes are asumed to be a myth

Yet so many earthlings believe that a god is not a myth

Transsexuals and transgenders are frowned on,

Conservatives consider the small and big changes an abomination.

In some places even women are put down not alone by segregation.

Men dominate the planet, together with their invention,

The oldest mind manipulation called religion

The religio political leaders that made this planet a prison

Are all males, who abuse little children.

From the the highest levels that no one can name their positions

Down the authoritarian pyramid of political theism to the free masons

All male totalarian testosterone penis brain driven bunch of scum,

Raping mother earth until she bleeds into the stars, cutting her open.

Will mankind, yes, man kind, kill mother earth, with nukes ?

Sprawling her insides into the moon in full glare of the sun ?

If only this planet had no men, men as such, this man kind

The inhumane insane human, burning babies on giant owl statues

Molesting boys in churches, marrying little girls in mosques...

Making millions of money from civil and world wars they caused.

I wish I lived on a planet that had no men, especially this man kind.

If there were no men, such as these , we would be exploring galaxies by now.

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Comment by Devlin Cuite on April 7, 2014 at 5:26am

Also, some men naturally want to be the one who provides and takes care of his kin and beloved ones and some women want to naturally be the one who is being provided for and want a dominant man. Some don't, it's all natural and random. It's just that the women who aren't like that choose to complain. Some men do, too, but I haven't seen anywhere near as many masculinist as I have feminist.

Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on April 7, 2014 at 8:43pm

so apparently I am sexist because of retaliating and talking about the abuse men have caused me in my life and the observation of this planet going down the toilet.  have suicidal tendencies now i had been fucked up ... my parents made me fucked up... no it was the religious institutions which fucked up my parents with religious indoctrination to cause them to fuck me up...which were invented by men... here we go loopdy loop...

Comment by kris feenstra on April 7, 2014 at 10:14pm

No, none of that is why the poem was called sexist. Much of that wasn't even apparent in the poem. Perhaps as the author it's clear to you that it's all connected, but to the readers there'd be too much guess work to come to conclusions as specific as your parents messed you up for being genderqueer or trans (if that's the case) because men fabricated a religion to which they ascribed.

By all means, I have no interest in trying to convert you from your feelings or condemn you for them -- I am sympathetic to what you've suffered --, but your readers have feelings and perspectives too, which in turn are shaped by the things we've experienced in our lives. I'm not asking for consideration; I'm just saying that's how it is.

The poem, regardless of the background info you've later provided, reads sexist to at least several people. That's how it is.

Comment by kris feenstra on April 7, 2014 at 10:50pm

Feminism is sexism and the extreme feminist are a disgrace to humanity. They are just like evangelist and a lot of other religious people. Extreme feminist are ignoranuses. I'm assuming you live in America. There is just as much of a problem with sexism for men there as there is for women.

I appreciate that this overall post was going for objectivity, and that it doesn't seek to deny sexism in any form, but this particular paragraph is odd. The qualifier 'extreme' pretty much makes the rest redundant. 'Extremism' is a term we apply to write things off most of the time. Feminism is a set of considerations centred on female perspective. It's not mutually exclusive with considering the rights and needs of other groups, but it has its usefulness. Even if there is sexism toward men, one can still consider sexism specifically targeted at women from a feminist perspective on a single issue basis without hypocrisy.

That there isn't as much 'masculinism' as feminism comes down to the fact that the prejudice men have faced has not, historically, resulted in the same level of disenfranchisement.

Comment by Lewal on April 7, 2014 at 11:52pm
I'm kind of a fan of men. What with their role in the continuation of the species and all.
Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on April 8, 2014 at 12:15am

Nope , was born intersexed with bothe gender bits, something more dramatic than just trans or genderqueer , a month after I was born, parents decided to what gender they seemed fit, regardless of the consequences.  They forced to bring me up as a male, but their assumptions failed. This has a lot to do with my feelings about men. Also I experienced rape by a man as well.

Comment by Devlin Cuite on April 8, 2014 at 6:11am

I'm not trying to make this personal at all. I am deeply sorry for any pain that men have caused you. But please, don't blame ALL men or even most men.
Please don't blame me for any more emotional or mental damage that could've been caused by my comment. As kris feenstra said, there is no way I could've known any of that. I wasn't making it personal. I was just stating my opinion and the way I see things. More or less what you did, just I didn't make a poem.

This planet is not going down the toilet at all. This planet is swimming itself back up and is trying to jump out of the bowl. If you really think the planet is going down the toilet, then look at what it was like a hundred years, two hundred years ago, a thousand years ago and so on.
Maybe for you the planet is going down the toilet, so your life feels as if it is draining. I'm not trying to be rude.

Yes, religions were most likely made by men, maybe not necessarily the idea, because we can never know which gender had the idea. But men definitely made religion a thing and believe me, I hate them for that. But those are the men from thousands of years ago who really caused that problem. Like the one quote says "Behind every great man there's a great woman" That quote is used when men go to the moon. Well, Armstrong had a wife supporting him, right? Sure, that is correct. A man does get a lot of support from his partner, male or female. But when it is Stalin who had multiple wives who must've also supported him, that quote is never uttered. I am not saying it is because of women, but I consider the possibility of women also playing a good role in it all.
Men have caused a lot of damage, yes. But men are getting better, too. The women's side of criminality is going up.
You have to admit that men are getting better. I mean look at all these men that are choosing to stay inside and play video games, that number is growing and they don't really do any harm. In my country there are guys who seriously look like they are all gay. They have the side shave and tight pants and weird shirts and they are complete whusses. I doubt very much that more than a third of them is actually abusive in any real bad way to their parnters.
I don't have a problem with saying that men are horrible. But it's not only them. Please try to understand how I am trying to be equal on both sides.

You got fucked up by your parents, religion, men whatever. Ok, blame men, I guess, I won't really be able to change your mind on that, which is sad, because you really think that men are holding back society and causing it's problems. And without men women would not be able to continue surviving, not at the moment. And at some point in time men will be able to survive without women, too. If we are talking about the future and all that. Females are not superior to males and vice versa.
But you have to decide for yourself if you can unfuck yourself. Choose to be the stronger person and so on. If you want the motivational talk then I could give you that, too. But you probably despise me at the moment for multiple reasons, so it would just seem as if I am being an ass.

I don't think I actually called you sexist. I am pretty sure I used the word "if" in my statements. I am very careful about that normally. If I accidentally left out an "if" then I apologize. But I did say things like "IF you are saying men are the problem. IF you are ..." I doubt I said you were.

I do not think all feminist are a disgrace. I mean the ones that take it way too far. The ones that pick a random man from the street and start questioning him and start yelling at him for doing things he or she is uncertain that man has done.
I do agree feminism has it's usefulness, but I also think that most parts of the world have already reached their goal. I just don't agree with all feminist and not all the views they have. Some things do need to be changed for women, yes. Mainly things like women getting paid less or not having as many job opportunities. But even those issues are becoming less and less of an issue. I believe that The Amazing Atheist covered that, too.

And yes, historically not as much has happened to men as to women. I'm pretty sure I said that. But that is changing every day and has been for the past few years. The issues are also rising for men nowadays. I said give it a few years and women will be just as bad as men are in the places where women already have equal rights and all that other good stuff. But people don't focus on it as much because it is an issue of men. It is belittled and it goes in one ear and out the other most of the time.

I was not yelling or being offensive towards you. Sorry if it seemed that way. It may have been because I added a "cuss" word every now and again, but like I said, I am just expressing myself that way, it is not meant to offend.

I am sorry for what you have been through, but don't blame all men for ALL the evil. A lot, sure, not all. Men are not holding back society anymore. Men are not the only ones causing harm. ...
People are doing these things nowadays. 200 years ago you could've said men the whole time and I would've agreed. But now it is people doing those things.

Your poem did seem quite sexist as kris feenstra said. To be honest, I don't really see the reason to apologize since I couldn't have known, but I guess it is good manner to do so anyways. So, apologies.

To clarify again. I am not against women. I am not against men. I have had horrible experiences with men. I have had horrible experiences with women. Also around the same percentage. I have a problem with bad people, that is all. Picking any side is not logical to ME. I am not saying my view is ultimately correct. I'm stating my opinion.

I may have seemed rude in my comments. Sorry, I didn't mean to seem rude, I just didn't agree with your views and I had the right to state my opinion. I hope any mental harm or emotional damage I caused can be forgotten, not in the sense that I didn't possibly cause any, but in the sense that it wasn't meant. So I guess forgiven is the word.

Comment by Davis Goodman on April 8, 2014 at 2:06pm

To an extent I can sympathise because guys, especially when dating, can be such monumental douche-bags...it's flabbergasting. Having said that...I don't think you really wish that there were NO men in this world. Do you really wish that?

Comment by kris feenstra on April 8, 2014 at 3:12pm

Nope , was born intersexed with bothe gender bits, something more dramatic than just trans or genderqueer 

That's a weird way of putting it. It's not a competition, but yes, it's a very uncommon scenario and society generally has not done right by intersexed individuals. Once upon a time, even medical science held the belief that a child's gender could be assigned or reassigned and their identity would conform. They were wrong. For those who still insist it is true, they are wrong, and normalization surgery at birth should be banned outright barring any medical necessity for the child's survival. Gender identity should not be treated like a coin toss.

I don't really get the connection to religion or men specifically here, apart from the male identity thrust upon you, but it's not like I need to. Obviously your feelings are not validated by what I do or do not understand. That almost goes without saying where rape is concerned.

Like I said, I have no intentions of converting your feelings; it's just that the very nature of this piece is describing a rift. In all likelihood, the party which will suffer the most from this rift isn't me or any other man reading this poem; it's you. Almost fifty percent of the world's population is cisgender men. Some of your best potential allies in life are cisgender men. I don't know you, and I think pity would be arrogant -- maybe what you've got going on works for you --, but it is a saddening thought that there is a divide between you and others, even if you have emotional validation in spades.

Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on April 8, 2014 at 4:42pm

It is not weird unless you were in the same boat, I agree that there should not be surgical interference with people who are born this way without having to make the choices themselves. It feels like your life had been bought and owned by your parents, institutions and their church, which they hold faith and belief to. It is indoctrination.  having to experience life the way I am, and the way society automatically puts you in a corner, becomes and observation corner where getting over the pain and suffering involves studying and observing the rest of society from this corner, like a lonely scientists in laboratory. They dont realize that surgical mutilation would cause mental scaring and permanent PTSD if the child does not turn out to be what they intended and puberty happens to the contrary to what they assumed.

Religion and men. Well it is observed that men are in the highest positions of most organized religious institutions on this planet, including secret society cults such as the freemasons and others which you never heard of who are above the masons. Masons tend to be more council/city/town based religio political elite authority. Who have a lot of power and resources and financial institutions(since everything on this planet is forced to be run by money) at their fingertips to manipulate the rest of the populace to their whims and wants.  

The prerequisites of freemasonry is that one has to believe in a supreme being aka God, and one has to be a man(male gender of earth people). This is no doubt theism, and when theism is tied to rituals, temples and so on, it can be considered a religion or cult. Religion and cults are the same things, different names same thing, just the one appears positive than the other.

 Even in open religious institutions, for example of Christianity and Islam, men are placed to be far more superior than women. Women are downgraded from people to property, however in the secret religious institutions, you have the same thing where women are completely rejected from joining the sects, but they see anyone who are not part of the sect as property and not people.

To be honest, I think this planet's ruling elite are more sexist than my poem of pain, suffereing and frustration, when I think about it.


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