I would like to hear people's views on the topic of spirituality. Some starting viewpoints to discuss and develop further. The first question I would ask is: is it possible to be an atheist and believe in some form of spirituality, however defined?

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Comment by Steve Armitstead on November 4, 2013 at 8:18am

Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. I am doing Part 2 of the blog at the moment and will incorporate my responses to your comments there. Please do keep comments coming.

Comment by steven rodriguez on November 4, 2013 at 9:28am

spirituality isn't casper the ghost flying around. Its how you feel emotionally about things. Like when you listen to music or sitting in the woods or watching birds. It has nothing to do with a petty god trying to control you and take your money. here's a example. Remember when you were in high school and they had pre game in  pep rallies. They would get everyone riled up into a frenzy and call it team spirit. that's what spiritualism is its how something makes you feel and the ability to feel

Comment by Ed on November 4, 2013 at 10:31am

Communing with nature is not spiritual in the strict sense of the term but I believe our ability to interact with our environment to the extent we fill a bond and a harmony constitutes a mental condition equivalent to any religious experience. 

Comment by Unseen on November 4, 2013 at 1:11pm

I don't think you can be a real atheist without being a pretty hardcore materialist. And I mean "materialist" in the philosophical sense of someone who disbelieves in the existence of anything spiritual in nature and believes that everything is either matter or some phenomenon associated with matter. That rules out anything having to do with "spirit" or "spirituality." If you use the term without reference to a spiritual entity like a soul or spirit or ghost, why not pick a better word?

Comment by MikeLong on November 4, 2013 at 4:28pm

I agree with Unseen. To me "spiritualism" must include something "supernatural" among atheists. However, in certain circles of friends I don't have a serious problem conversing about it as if it were real.

Comment by steven rodriguez on November 4, 2013 at 4:37pm

the only rule to free thinking is to not tell anyone else how to do it

Comment by MikeLong on November 4, 2013 at 5:56pm

"the only rule to free thinking is to not tell anyone else how to do it"

Yes, I suppose. But in order to communicate, we need agreement on the meaning of words. Proffering suggestions in that regard constitutes stepping in the right direction. Wouldn't it be nice to know if, say, someone told you they were "spiritual", what, as precisely as possible  they mean by that? You are "free" to think of that array of buttons where your fingers are currently resting a "pie" , if you like. But not a lot of people will understand what you mean when you communicate "pie".

Comment by steven rodriguez on November 4, 2013 at 6:50pm

well we need to think of a word that describes the feeling I get when im eating my cheerios on the patio in the morning and im looking at the birds and forest in the background thinking about how much I love my children but I don't want it too clinical. Just because I don't believe in the God scam doesn't make me a robot

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on November 4, 2013 at 6:55pm

If you define spirituality as 'the recreational value of alcohol' then I would believe in it, and I think many here might also do.  More conventional definitions likely wouldn't find much support around here.

Comment by steven rodriguez on November 4, 2013 at 7:28pm

yes because nobody holds the rights or card distribution on being a atheist. There is a more scientific explanation which I use the word spiritual in my life. being a atheist is not believing in a god created universe. but you can believe that we as humans and nature  are connected and we haven't discovered why. lots of things are proven to exist but without total understanding how they work so until they give me a clinical scientific explanation ill use the word spiritual and maybe its slang but it works fine.


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