I just read an article this morning online about a group teens in Oklahoma who randomly shot and killed an Australian collage student and claim they did it "for the fun of it". All I can think of is, what is wrong with these kids? 

"...Charged with first-degree murder are Chancey Allen Luna, 16, and James Francis Edwards Jr., 15, according to the Stephens County District Attorney's office. Michael Dewayne Jones, 17, who allegedly drove the vehicle carrying the other suspects, was charged with use of a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and accessory to murder after the fact, the office said..."

"...Lane was out jogging during a visit to his girlfriend and her family in Duncan on Friday, when he was shot in the back, police said. He attended East Central University in Ada, Oklahoma, where he was on a baseball scholarship.

What drives a person (even the most immature teenager) to think that killing someone is funny? Or that its acceptable to kill for fun? From a psychological viewpoint, what causes a persons train of thought to resort to killing for fun?

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Comment by Unseen on August 24, 2013 at 6:43pm

I think what background checks there are may be the reason why so many crimes are committed with illegally obtained guns. 

Comment by H3xx on August 24, 2013 at 8:30pm


They look at your felony record, yes, but not at your mental state. The Aurora Shooter had no felonies, and purchased the firearms legally. He snapped and killed a bunch of people for apparently no reason. Had he been required to submit to a psych exam before hand, it's likely he wouldn't have gotten a gun at all.

As for Women seeking to protect themselves, The Taser company and Mace Company make some fine products for dealing with unwanted attention.

Comment by Unseen on August 24, 2013 at 8:34pm

@H3xx I'm sure if we made mental evaluations universal for buying cars we'd probably save even more lives. Face it: the number of people killed every year by misused firearms pales by comparison with the number of people killed by people misusing autos.

Comment by SteveInCO on August 24, 2013 at 10:55pm

But hey it'd be a wonderful program for keeping psychiatrists and psychologists employed.  Millions of firearms are purchased every month, that means MILLIONS of new psych evals every month.

As near as I can tell though, psychs are already pretty busy.  Given the number of years it takes to train new ones, how do you anticipate meeting the demand your (implicit) proposal would entail?

Or is it really that you would be content with the fact that no one will be able to buy a gun for lack of being able to schedule an appointment with an  overworked psychologist?

Comment by Unseen on August 24, 2013 at 11:26pm

I'm not sure how many psychiatrists are comfortable with denying some nut job getting a legal gun, in the knowledge that there are, after all, illegal ways of getting them.

Comment by Unseen on August 24, 2013 at 11:27pm

Am I the only one who understands that these programs focus on gun ownership whereas if one wants to do something bad with a gun, it doesn't have to be a gun one owns.

Comment by SteveInCO on August 25, 2013 at 3:59pm

Oh, you are not the only one.

I do think many who propose these sorts of programs really wish no one owned guns, and I find it curious their focus is on things that will simply serve to harass law-abiding owners.

Comment by Strega on August 25, 2013 at 6:40pm

I wonder if I should buy a gun once I've got my green card.  On the one hand, it might be a very 'Mercan thing to do.  On the other hand, I have always imagined it to be enormously frustrating to be allowed to own a gun but not allowed to shoot anyone that annoys you.  Not having been brought up with the kind of self-restraint that would be required, perhaps it's less of a good idea than my learning to drive.  The threat of my actually doing that has been known to make grown men blanche.  Hmmmm heads or tails... heads or tails... This is such fun!

Comment by Unseen on August 25, 2013 at 7:34pm

@archie Removing all restrictions from gun ownership? What would be the point? Restricting ownership makes people feel like something is being done for a problem that only exists in their imagination. Apparently they believe that too many people "own" (as opposed to "have") guns. If it makes them feel better, that in itself is a good. Let's make it our goal to make sure that none of the guns out there are owned by anyone.

Comment by Strega on August 25, 2013 at 8:43pm

See there you go with that Doubting Thomas routine.  I've seen it done.  You push a couple of pedals with your feet, and wiggle the wheel a bit.  What could possibly go wrong?


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