Since the same sex marriage debate has been front and center in the past few years, christians have been beating us up with the "biblical definition of marriage" which we all know is pretty varied and not completely nailed down there. Pointing to Adam clinging to Eve and becoming one flesh is contradicted in many places where near-eastern polygamy reared it's non-condemned head.

Again, while in a groggy state this morning, this story came across the NPR airwaves about a recent study (two actually) that might give new insight into just why some mammal species evolved to be monogamous. No bible needed, no Yahweh needed, just survival, brains...and maybe love? Have a listen...

For Some Mammals It's One Love, But Reasons Still Unclear : NPR

Fewer than 10 percent of all mammal species are monogamous. In fact, biologists have long disagreed over why monogamy exists at all. That's the subject of two studies published this week — and they come to different conclusions.

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Comment by Simon Paynton on August 1, 2013 at 8:19pm

But it's in most cultures.  Honour killing is an extreme end of the spectrum, but the controlling of women's reproductive rights pervades most societies. 

I read an excellent book - "Leaving Mother Lake" by Yang Erche Namu, about a small area of China:  "A revelation of a culture virtually unknown in the West, a contemporary society in which women enjoy true sexual and economic freedom.". 

Comment by Unseen on August 1, 2013 at 9:16pm

(T)he controlling of women's reproductive rights pervades most societies. 

That just goes back to men being physically stronger than women. In most societies, the threat of force controls almost everything, women's rights being just one of them. As physical strength becomes less important, I think things will improve accordingly.

Comment by Doug Reardon on August 2, 2013 at 12:08am

What about all the hermaphrodites?

Comment by Simon Paynton on August 2, 2013 at 5:26am

Won't someone please think of the hermaphrodites? 

"That just goes back to men being physically stronger than women."  - this must have something to do with it, but why do they feel so incredibly strongly about it?  Female chastity is a life-and-death issue in many places, it is of vital importance.  It's a huge deal if a man finds out that a child in his family is not his own.  It's been said that in societies run by women, female chastity is not sanctified like it is in most male-dominated societies.  Certainly in the Mosuo society ("Leaving Mother Lake") this is the case.  I see this wherever women's rights to effectiveness and self-determination are respected.  - where they are allowed to get on with things in their own way. 

Comment by Unseen on August 2, 2013 at 9:07am

It's a huge deal if a man finds out that a child in his family is not his own.

It's a huge thing in both the UK and US, I'm sure, and even among atheists because a man may find him supporting a child that may be someone else's responsibility, and because there may have been some infidelity going on. We just tend not to murder women over it. Of course, that happens, but only in a very small minority of cases.

Comment by H3xx on August 2, 2013 at 2:34pm

Didn't Adam and Eve have sex out of wedlock?

Eve was also cloned from Adam, making them fraternal twins. Couldn't it also be called incest?

Comment by Unseen on August 2, 2013 at 4:20pm

Good point.

Comment by Doug Reardon on August 4, 2013 at 8:42pm

If Eve was a clone of Adam where did the need for sex & genetic diversity come from?

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