Should traffic cops pay be based on tickets?

From CNN: 

It's a theory many drivers have held since their first speeding ticket, that citations are somehow connected to a special perk for the officer writing it.

Now, a memo among Atlanta police officers has reignited such suspicions.

"The mayor has designated traffic court and ticket revenue for future pay increases," Atlanta Police Union President Ken Allen wrote this month.

Some residents scoffed at the idea.

"I'm probably going to switch from sales and join the police force in that case, if that's the way it's working," one resident, Ken Miller,told CNN affiliate WSB-TV. (more)

While some fear that tying pay to ticket-writing productivity, some believe there are very good reasons for doing so:

Tucson Police Chief Roberto Villasenor requires his officers to make an average of at least one traffic stop a day. He said many important arrests stem from traffic stops.

"That's where we get most of our narcotic arrests. We get a lot of warrants we've been able to serve," Villasenor told CNN affiliate KGUN. "There's benefit from traffic (stops) that have been proven in city after city. I'm just saying we can't forget that's part of our job." (same source as above)

I think most people drive over the speed limit a good deal of the time, so there's probably little need for the police to fabricate false speeding tickets and no doubt it has some effect, however small, on the speed at which people drive. It also leads to other arrests for more serious crimes.

So, why not?

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Tags: police, speed, speeding, tickets, traps

Comment by kOrsan on June 26, 2013 at 3:05pm

Yeah why not give these megalomaniac fucks even more incentive to abuse their power.

Comment by Strega on June 26, 2013 at 5:05pm

It also leads to other arrests for more serious crimes.

So would frisking everyone on a daily basis.  That is a ridiculous idea.  Do you really want to live in a country where the police or other authorities can stop you whenever they like and check that you are not committing a crime?  I thought the USA was supposed to be the land of the free.

One minute you are decrying the idea of retaining peoples DNA on databases, and the next, you are proposing unlimited, no actually incentivised stop and search routines. That's some fence, you're sitting on...

Comment by Unseen on June 26, 2013 at 8:26pm

Strega, you should know by now that, in the interest of stimulating interesting conversations, I keep my actual personal views on things close to my vest and offer and sometimes defend views which I know are controversial. If I'm straddling a fence, it won't be a fence you necessarily know about. LOL

Comment by Strega on June 26, 2013 at 9:06pm

Probably politer if I just post a link.... grin

Comment by Unseen on June 26, 2013 at 9:13pm

OUCH!

Comment by Unseen on June 26, 2013 at 10:36pm

I prefer rebel rouser.

Comment by Doug Reardon on June 26, 2013 at 10:57pm

The cops around here are on a quota system, we're a college town.  When the semester is about to end they pull just about everybody over.

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on June 27, 2013 at 9:51am

The police system should be funded by taxes alone...revenue from fines should be refunded to the tax-payers.

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on June 27, 2013 at 3:18pm

Everywhere I go, I see motorists speeding, rolling through stop signs, popping red lights, turning without signaling, tailgating, driving in the passing lane, driving on the shoulder, cutting off other drivers, road raging from lane to lane, failing to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, overtaking too closely, texting (or reading newspapers) at the wheel, speeding up when another driver tries to overtake, and doing any number of dangerous and illegal things. It's virtually non-stop and virtually everywhere.

Aggressive or inattentive driving is a contributing factor to most motor vehicle crashes, and motor vehicle crashes are one of leading causes of injury and death in the United States. Motorists crashed 3.5 million times in 2009 alone, causing 2.251 million casualties, including 33,808 deaths, and over $150.5 billion in property damage (excluding the billions lost to medical care, disability, and labor productivity).

I understand traffic law enforcement sometimes leads to the capture of wanted criminals. But what should be the primary purpose? I think it should be to reduce the suffering, destruction and death associated with rampant irresponsible motoring, which causes the equivalent body count of ten 911 attacks every year.

What cops are paid should have nothing to do with that. I think it should be the fines slapped down for traffic offenses. Make the fines consummate with the associated risk of death and destruction.

Take speeding for example. First Pullover: Warning. First offence: $500 fine. Second offence: $1000 fine. Third offence: $2,000 fine. Double it every time. Once it hits $16,000: seize the car. On $32,000 loss of license. If they're driving a car without a license or a car that belongs to someone else: 30 days in jail the first time, 60 days the second time, 120 days the third time, and so on.

Do that and watch how fast people will slow down, obey red lights, stop tailgating, and so on. Watch how fast the casualty numbers will plummet.

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on June 28, 2013 at 12:06am

@Gallup's Mirror:

Take speeding for example. First Pullover: Warning. First offense: $500 fine. Second offense: $1000 fine. Third offense: $2,000 fine. Double it every time. Once it hits $16,000: seize the car. On $32,000 loss of license. If they're driving a car without a license or a car that belongs to someone else: 30 days in jail the first time, 60 days the second time, 120 days the third time, and so on.

Will never work.

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