I post a lot of things about being atheist on Facebook; I realize this.  I live in the South immersing me right in the center of all religious perversions.  I have people delete me almost daily because of the things I post.  None of this ever really bothered me because I live a moral, ethical life and if someone didn't want to be digital friends with me because of my beliefs; so be it.  


It was different this time because it was one of my real life friends.  Someone that knows me, and knows how good of a person I try to be.  Cannot be friends with me because of my beliefs.  I'm generally a very insensitive person most of the time, but this hurt my heart. 

I'm becoming more and more of a militant atheist, and it's hard for me to even hear things about Christianity without getting heated in my head.  I need to move. 

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Comment by Emperor Milos on May 3, 2013 at 3:39pm

@Elizabeth - I had had to remove a friend recently because they got pissy with me criticizing the thankfully dead John Paul Pt2.

Here is a screenshot of the conversation.

Keep in mind that this fellow is attending a Catholic University and is studying to be a theologian, yet here he is defending a man who hid pedophiles and caused so many deaths with his ignorant attitude towards AIDS medication and homosexuality.

You are better off without people like that in your life, as kOrsan said, it is a free asshole-exposure ticket. I say enjoy it.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on May 3, 2013 at 4:02pm

Good job Milos. Yes it is the devout (pious) ones that also shun me. They never do it in private. They ALWAYS make it a public affair so others can “tut tut” about the affront my lack of belief in what they believe causes them. They never get that upset with people of other faiths because “at least they believe in something” even though those people also don’t believe what they believe

Recently one of them was good enough to remind me “that people like me” are responsible for the “tear in the moral fabric of society”. I spent the next ten minutes launched into such a tirade about his and his churches hypocrisy that he was stunned into silence. He will need a few days to recover. The pious little prick. Oh touch me Jesus!!

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on May 3, 2013 at 6:20pm

I'll be your friend if, you like guns, fast sportbikes and eating at 4 and 5 star restaurants.

...OR...

If you will just be true to yourself and your ideas. :)

Comment by archaeopteryx on May 3, 2013 at 6:29pm

Elizabeth - I think I just met your friend - here's Martin Sheen as the President in the late, great TV series, "West Wing":

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on May 3, 2013 at 7:15pm

The writers on that show were fantastic.

Comment by Barry Adamson on May 3, 2013 at 10:21pm

Those who choose to deny your friendship over something such as your atheism are really not friends to you at all.  If they are Christian, and presumably so since you are in the "Bible Belt," they should try a little bit of that "judge not lest you be judged" and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" that Jesus proclaims his followers to abide lest they be hypocrites.

Comment by Elizabeth Williams on May 3, 2013 at 11:10pm

Wow, thanks guys; this is great!!

Comment by Dr. Bob on May 3, 2013 at 11:36pm

Professor Robert - Why do some christians behave so appallingly.

Because we're human.  Wearing the label "Christian" doesn't make us any better than anyone else, particularly when it's a prevailing norm so there is no cost (or there's even social benefit) to professing Christianity. We get a lot of pretenders.

Here in Australia, we are having a trial, where 4 brothers from the one catholic school have been jailed for pedophilia, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. This one school spent one million dollars on the headmaster keeping him out of jail for pedophilia, Do you think these people really believe in Jesus and God? The school chaplain had 67 complaints against him. And this absolutely baffles me, that it can go on for so long, and they still profess to believe in Jesus, and pray to god, and giving mass and communion, whilst abusing and raping boys. How can this be, in your opinion.

Here in the U.S., I remember reading that the average number of kids molested by a single pedophile before they are stopped by a major felony conviction is well over 100.  That's not just true of religious perpetrators, it's true of coaches, teachers, camp staff, etc.  Such people seek positions of trust, and seek lonely, vulnerable kids who are unlikely to report, and even when there is a report it becomes a case of little proof vs. a known pillar of the community.

As a Catholic, though, it is especially infuriating for me when it is a religious.  As a professor, it's also doubly maddening when it's a teacher.  Jesus said "better a millstone should be tied around their necks and cast into the sea"; one of the few condemnations he made aside from condemning hypocritical priests. 

No, these people aren't licitly presiding at mass!  No, these people aren't licitly receiving communion!  Presiding at mass or receiving communion in that state of sin is contrary to Canon Law!  Of course, buggering children is contrary to Divine Law, and that didn't stop them either.

No, their profession of belief and pretended prayers aren't real!  They are liars and scum who are using the trappings of religion to get to kids!   Yes, their sin is mortal!  Yes, absolutely, every good person, religious or not should heap anathemas on their heads, and I'd be dishonest if I didn't say that there's a big part of me that would condone burning at the stake for just such offenses!  It is right and proper to be furious with them, and with any who abetted them.

Just don't lump all the rest of us teachers in with that lot, or all the rest of us religious folks.

Comment by Dr. Bob on May 3, 2013 at 11:46pm

Hmmm... I can't back edit in this blog.

I'd just say that while I responded above to a question directed to me, the comments here are probably more wisely spent in support of @Elizabeth, rather than commenting on pedophiles.  I'd chop that last reply down if I could.

So ignore all that @Elizabeth!  Just put me down as a Catholic Christian who thinks your so-called "friend" was just a jerk, and not much of a Christian.  Be yourself.  Speak your mind, look for better friends (and better Christians).  And try to avoid the temptation to be militant.  Humor is better.  ;)

Comment by archaeopteryx on May 3, 2013 at 11:58pm

@Bob - RE: "Wearing the label "Christian" doesn't make us any better than anyone else" - I believe Chesterton said it best:

"Just going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in your garage makes you a car."
-- G.K. Chesterton --

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