There are some meaningless things people just go along with. Let me point out something that should be rather obvious, but for some reason isn't.

Ending world hunger is a bad idea.

It seems even atheists have a hard time grasping this. Bimbos in beauty pageants are trained to parrot it back whenever they're asked what they wish for. Ask any child, or naive adult, and you'll get the same wish of ending world hunger, world peace or some other inane nonsense like that.

Ever stop to think about why humans aren't supposed to interfere with nature? Why do you think it is that cameramen filming little turtles crawling into the ocean never stop help them? Why do they just stand there and watch as some of the poor little fucks get picked off my birds? Because that's how nature preserves its balance. If all of them made it to the ocean, the risk of overpopulation would be too high.

Knowing this then, why do we interfere with other humans? Why is it ethical to not interfere with nature when it's animals, but it's suddenly the complete opposite when it's humans? Why do people have such a hard time accepting that humans are no different than other animals, and that most of the world's problems are indisputably caused by human overpopulation?

7 billion people is too much as it is, and the only reason that some of these billions of people are starving to death, dying in wars, famine etc is that there's too much of them to begin with. And the solution is to stop them from dying so humanity can spread even more? How disgusting.

Every time you watch a documentary on obesity, you can be sure to hear something along the lines of "with the food thrown away in America on a daily basis you could end world hunger." Yes, and then those people would multiply, and then we're fucked again. It's a matter of thinking long term. Aiding in more people surviving is only going to cause more suffering in the long run. Earth is finite. Resources are finite. And thanks to religion we're wasting precious time and money on arguing about matters that are apparently more important, such as who should be allowed to marry whom, and so are yet nowhere near to colonizing space. It's simply irresponsible to suggest every human should be saved.

Famine, disease and even war are nature's way of keeping our numbers at bay, and we arrogantly struggle against that. We're so fucking precious aren't we? No. Humans are no different than any other resource. The more on there is on the market, the less it's worth.

People are trying to get pandas to fuck in the zoo so their species doesn't die out. No one does the same for ants, cockroaches or grasshoppers. They're "pests." In fact we try to kill those. Well guess what, humans aren't the equivalent to pandas. We're the fucking locusts of this world, and it's already haunting us. We have to accept that nature, earth, cannot support this many people breeding at an accelerating rate. Ultimately at this point, with 7 billion people, any single person is too much, and pumping out more of our larva is just detrimental to the well-being of the rest.

Same goes for people who have children. Don't think I forgot about you. It doesn't matter how much you recycle, how much of a vegan you are, or how well you raise your little supposed prodigies. In the end, you're just part of the problem. So next time you feel selfish enough to want kids, be a little moral and do the world a favor by just adopting a kid.

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Comment by Simon Paynton on April 17, 2013 at 5:09pm

Garrett Hardin talks about this issue in a seminal paper of 1968:  technical, but worth it. 

The Tragedy of the Commons

... Freedom to breed will bring ruin to all. At the moment, to avoid hard decisions many of us are tempted to propagandize for conscience and responsible parenthood. The temptation must be resisted, because an appeal to independently acting consciences selects for the disappearance of all conscience in the long run, and an increase in anxiety in the short.

The only way we can preserve and nurture other and more precious freedoms is by relinquishing the freedom to breed, and that very soon. "Freedom is the recognition of necessity"--and it is the role of education to reveal to all the necessity of abandoning the freedom to breed. Only so, can we put an end to this aspect of the tragedy of the commons.

Comment by Simon Paynton on April 17, 2013 at 5:15pm

I agree, but having to abandon our own planet in search of a new one - that's a disaster. 

Comment by Unseen on April 17, 2013 at 5:52pm

I want to get my cat scanned. One of my socks is missing.

Comment by RobertPiano on April 17, 2013 at 6:12pm

So much truth and wisdom in this post. The religious will populate this tiny planet until their dreams of Armageddon come true. Only the lack of fuel and food can stop it.

Comment by Belle Rose on April 17, 2013 at 6:22pm
I wonder who here on this post has ever truly starved? (I may be wrong) and I don't mean going a day or two (or 10) without food. If any of you have starved for any length of time and you've still found starvation to be non-essential in the realm of "morality" in terms of problems we should strive to solve then I make an exception for you. Otherwise I think it to be something we do not truly understand. Witnessing starvation and starving yourself are very different things. If you were the one starving you may not feel so strongly that it is an immoral issue to wish it aleviated.
Comment by kOrsan on April 17, 2013 at 6:37pm

Belle better a few people starve than multiples of it in the future. That's where we're heading now. Places like famine stricken parts of Africa are really a glimpse into the future of all around the Earth. If I were starving, I'd never wish that upon anybody else, especially not the future generations. But that's where we're heading right now. The best and most effective way to stop starvation of humans in general would not be to send them some little rations every now end then so they can prolong their miserable lives, but instead try to find a balance like Simon said. We need to find the equilibrium between quality and quantity, so everybody who's around can live a good life. That's not going to happen as long as clergy scum pressure people into breeding recklessly without thought of resources and conditions. It's not just people starving elsewhere, think of your own children. Their conditions of life are going to deteriorate with each passing generation.

Comment by Jimmy Russell on April 17, 2013 at 6:54pm

It is not so much that starvation itself is not within the realm of morality, rather it is more immoral to condemn the rest of the world to the fate of curing it as the population exists today.  I think that is what Korsan is trying to say..correct me if I'm wrong dude.  Whether you have starved or are starving does not change the fact that we are too many on this planet and there are only so many beans to go around.

Comment by Jimmy Russell on April 17, 2013 at 6:57pm

correction..i think that is what he means for you to understand

Comment by Dale Headley on April 17, 2013 at 7:16pm

Easy to say, when YOU aren't the one starving.  

Comment by Belle Rose on April 17, 2013 at 7:45pm
So it sounds like the root concern here is not related to starvation at all, it's all about the problem of overpopulation. The problem is religion and the bullshit teachings of glorifying big families and taking away a woman's right to choose. These are the core issues.

I am a nursing mother and if I saw a starving baby right now my BODY would respond. Milk would flow like the nile river. It is a basic human instinct to feed starving people. It is part of our evolutionary foundation. To say it is immoral to do so is half blind because you fail to see the real issue. The real issue is the lack of empowerment of women and religion. Tackle these issues and your problem is solved. I do get where you are coming from. I just see it differently (with all do respect)


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