There are some meaningless things people just go along with. Let me point out something that should be rather obvious, but for some reason isn't.

Ending world hunger is a bad idea.

It seems even atheists have a hard time grasping this. Bimbos in beauty pageants are trained to parrot it back whenever they're asked what they wish for. Ask any child, or naive adult, and you'll get the same wish of ending world hunger, world peace or some other inane nonsense like that.

Ever stop to think about why humans aren't supposed to interfere with nature? Why do you think it is that cameramen filming little turtles crawling into the ocean never stop help them? Why do they just stand there and watch as some of the poor little fucks get picked off my birds? Because that's how nature preserves its balance. If all of them made it to the ocean, the risk of overpopulation would be too high.

Knowing this then, why do we interfere with other humans? Why is it ethical to not interfere with nature when it's animals, but it's suddenly the complete opposite when it's humans? Why do people have such a hard time accepting that humans are no different than other animals, and that most of the world's problems are indisputably caused by human overpopulation?

7 billion people is too much as it is, and the only reason that some of these billions of people are starving to death, dying in wars, famine etc is that there's too much of them to begin with. And the solution is to stop them from dying so humanity can spread even more? How disgusting.

Every time you watch a documentary on obesity, you can be sure to hear something along the lines of "with the food thrown away in America on a daily basis you could end world hunger." Yes, and then those people would multiply, and then we're fucked again. It's a matter of thinking long term. Aiding in more people surviving is only going to cause more suffering in the long run. Earth is finite. Resources are finite. And thanks to religion we're wasting precious time and money on arguing about matters that are apparently more important, such as who should be allowed to marry whom, and so are yet nowhere near to colonizing space. It's simply irresponsible to suggest every human should be saved.

Famine, disease and even war are nature's way of keeping our numbers at bay, and we arrogantly struggle against that. We're so fucking precious aren't we? No. Humans are no different than any other resource. The more on there is on the market, the less it's worth.

People are trying to get pandas to fuck in the zoo so their species doesn't die out. No one does the same for ants, cockroaches or grasshoppers. They're "pests." In fact we try to kill those. Well guess what, humans aren't the equivalent to pandas. We're the fucking locusts of this world, and it's already haunting us. We have to accept that nature, earth, cannot support this many people breeding at an accelerating rate. Ultimately at this point, with 7 billion people, any single person is too much, and pumping out more of our larva is just detrimental to the well-being of the rest.

Same goes for people who have children. Don't think I forgot about you. It doesn't matter how much you recycle, how much of a vegan you are, or how well you raise your little supposed prodigies. In the end, you're just part of the problem. So next time you feel selfish enough to want kids, be a little moral and do the world a favor by just adopting a kid.

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Comment by Simon Paynton on April 18, 2013 at 4:21pm

Natural, schmatural.  It's whatever you define it to be, and is a somewhat useless concept in my opinion. 

@Belle - "Morality is the very essence of how we have survived and evolved as a species. We don't create it, it has evolved from us. How then are we going to just turn our backs on the way we have evolved...

I like your description of morality.  As kOrsan said, the long-term effects are important.  As you said, short-term is important too.  There's no excuse for behaving unethically in the service of long-term goals.  If harm has to be caused, then no more harm than is strictly necessary.  The answer always has to be compassion. 

Comment by kris feenstra on April 18, 2013 at 7:49pm

"All it does is sit in those trees getting drunk on eucalyptus juice..."

Sounds pretty damn evolved to me already.

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on April 18, 2013 at 7:49pm

Does it really matter?  At some point there will be a Gamma Ray Burst in this Galaxy and that will be the end of the human condition.

Overpopulation makes it hard on everyone vying for limited resources it is the bull in the china shop.

Comment by Unseen on April 18, 2013 at 8:15pm

Maybe the koala needs another introduced species to prey on it. Why not bring in some leopards? What could go wrong?

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on April 18, 2013 at 9:14pm

A koala could kick a leopard's ass.

Comment by Unseen on April 18, 2013 at 10:26pm

I googled up some puma sighting photos. Most of the cats were black. I'm not sure black is a possible coat color for pumas. From their profiles, they looked a bit more like leopards than pumas, and leopards DO come in black. If you do have pumas, they should spread like wildfire. At one time they were the only predator (and perhaps the only mammal) whose range went from Northern Canada to the Southern tip of South America. They thrive in forests, plains, and deserts, and at any elevation from sea level to a mile above or more. If you have pumas, you'll have problems eradicating them. And since Australia's marsupial natives, with a few exceptions (kangaroos, wallabies), are a little slow, they'll be easy prey for pumas. Or leapards.

Comment by Unseen on April 18, 2013 at 11:55pm

I have my doubts that the puma sightings are real. Like you say, they'd be evident by now. I know Australia has had (has?) a bit problem with imported rabbits. You have a cat problem, too? Cats are hell on small animals and birds wherever they are. My own kitty, cute and cuddly as she is, has the speed, reflexes, and claws to give her a very high kill rate. They're perfect predators.

Comment by Simon Paynton on April 19, 2013 at 5:36pm

@ Belle - "we're already .. " shhh - I think you're right. 

Comment by Missy Hollingsworth on April 22, 2013 at 6:45pm

@ Angela-- hahaha cat scanners... my first thought was little scan machines meant for cats, then I realized what you meant. CATscan machines...duh!

So, my thoughts on this, and I really have no room to talk because like Dr. Grixis, I too am a breeder. I have three children, who are all adults now, and two of which are gay, and one is married with a baby on the way.

I have to agree with you, kOrsan on much of what you've said. Most importantly about the italicized bit in your second post. I think that if our governments (all the governments of the world...or at least all of those in the UN) would quit wasting money on needless wars, politics and spreading hate, and start putting it back into space exploration, mankind may possibly be better off in the future...that is if we make it that long...

About famine and disease being natures birth control... well humans are way too smart because we even figured out a way to beat nature at at least one of those to forms... we created vaccines.

One thing you said about breeders and religion really hit home with me. I have several family members who are devout mormons, and wouldn't you know it, they all have huge families! My aunt has 4 girls, who are all adults, and each have 4-5 kids. One of my uncles has 7 kids. He stopped having kids when the last one was born with some kind of mental dysfunction. I'm not sure what it is, and I'm not trying to be discriminatory, but that's what it took for him to get his wife 'fixed' and they were in their 50's when their last kid was born. Scary fact! I'm not really sure why catholics and mormons don't believe in birth control, and I don't really care, but there has to come a time when they say, "Wow Marj, I don't know if we can support any more kids, we already have a herd...." oh, but wait, they think if they pray to a nonexistent invisible friend named 'god' that he will provide for them... I wonder if you can eat nonexistent invisible friend food...just sayin!

I apologize in advance for the sarcasm, but that's just my way of saying, wake the fuck up people, there is no god! There is no scientific evidence that proves the existence of god (in any form), therefore, there is no god!

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