Hiya. My name is Ash...
I go to a high school  in the state of Georgia, and I am currently taking AP US History.
I do not say the pledge, and I do not stand.
I do not say it because I know America is not "under God" and I know there is not "liberty and justice for all."
I choose not to stand because I don't want to stand for a country, that I believe, does not stand for me.
I have not stood for the pledge since 8th grade, and I'm currently in 11th. I have never had any problems until now.
I have not stood in my APUSH class all year and my teacher recently just caught me sitting.
He told me to stand.
I said no.
As soon as the pledge was over, he took me out of the class and chewed me out. 
He said that as long as I'm in his class I must stand, that it is illegal to sit, and he was going to get me kicked out of his class.
Obviously, none of that was true. I'm still in the class.
I went to an administrator about the issue and he talked to my teacher. Nothing was done in my favor.
Every morning I must sit outside his classroom door in the hallway until the pledge is over.
I feel very discriminated against. I should not have to sit/stand outside his door. I know this is wrong of him to do and I am very unhappy with it.
This is our only AP teacher.
What should I do?
My mom told me to stand anyway, and my brother called me an idiot.
Don't tell me to just stand, because I'm not going to go against something I believe in just for some school.
Is there anything I could do?

Views: 639

Tags: atheism, georgia, god, high, pledge, problems, school, under

Comment by _Robert_ on January 13, 2013 at 7:36pm

The Knights of Columbus are the reason for the "under god" part back in the 1950's. Nothing like a secret society hellbent on indoctrination.

Comment by Melvinotis on January 13, 2013 at 8:06pm

Ash, a healthy amount of questioning authority is always in order. You might do well in the current climate by describing the teacher's actions as bullying, because in the end, that is what it is.

Comment by Kairan Nierde on January 13, 2013 at 10:03pm

I hope you realize your teacher is probably going to make you pay for going back in the classroom.  Just be prepared.  Good luck!

Also, I have to question the quality of education this teacher is providing you.  If he thinks his beliefs trump constitutional law in real life, how might he be twisting your lessons to support any of his other views?  You might benefit from independent studies in this case.


Comment by Jimmy Russell on January 14, 2013 at 12:37am

You need to pwn his ass infront of everyone.  Hand him a well made packet of info that lets him know what he is doing is illegal and that you would think his views would better reflect the history he is supposed to be teaching. 

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on January 14, 2013 at 2:52am

Decades ago I stopped saying those two words.

The Bush Administration's war crimes persuaded me to no longer pledge allegiance. They were in the news when, in a meeting, I said I would no longer take part in the opening pledge. I added that I will discuss the issue when the club pledges allegiance to the Constitution.

BTW, most of that club's members are war veterans. No one has given me a problem.

What bothers me most is the damage that repeating the pledge does to the ability to reason.

It can result in a lynch mob mentality. Who benefits from that but America's rulers?

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on January 14, 2013 at 8:32am

Ash, you're my new hero, one of the few, stand tall you have my respect.


Comment by Kris K on January 14, 2013 at 9:15am
If standing during the pledge is what he is requiring of you, go to the administrator and get it in writing that you "standing during the pledge" is what the teacher is demanding. Once you have that, go ahead and stand but face away from the flag. That'll be a nice big FU to that prick of a teacher.
Comment by Gallup's Mirror on January 14, 2013 at 1:00pm

GM - got a new avatar for you, just reduce to size --

I prefer the thunderbolt. Thanks anyway Arch.

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on January 14, 2013 at 1:26pm

 I used my best baritone to call the principle, pretend to be an attorney representing her, 

A word of caution for the impressionable: impersonating an attorney is a felony in most US states. I wouldn't do it, although I don't have Arch's dashing bravado. 

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on January 14, 2013 at 1:27pm

AND it's Zeus-approved!

And bestowed upon me by my sensational and beloved wife. 


You need to be a member of Think Atheist to add comments!

Join Think Atheist

© 2015   Created by umar.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service