I just had a guy ask if atheists celebrate xmas on twitter.. I replied that I do indeed celebrate the holidays in the context of having the opportunity to have time off work, spend time with family, give/receive gifts, eat and drink loads and generally have a nice time.. he was pretty annoyed by my response and stated that this was hypocrisy.. he also had an issue with the fact I would receive gifts from friends/family as this time of year was to celebrate Jesus birthday only.... for me to inform him I would be partaking in the holiday season, yet stating in no way religious, I was dismissed as having double standards.

Do you celebrate xmas, this holiday period? what are your thoughts? Is it hypocritical to receive gifts and partake in family dinners? Personally I take full advantage of a lovely time of year.. CHRIST does not come into it!

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Comment by emma bailie on November 29, 2012 at 12:49pm

Cody Kirchner, that made me laugh very hard!  However, I agree with you.. Its very much a one day to church affair for many of the hyprocritcal xtians out there pointing fingers at others... as they say.. don't throw stones at glass houses :)

Comment by emma bailie on November 29, 2012 at 1:02pm

Thanks for that explanation GM! I'll be sure to inform him as I didn't know as much detail as you've now explained.. I find them all to be hypocrites where xmas is concerned. Xmas to me was always about family time and having lots of food and drink, never anything to do with jesus, his so called birthday.. my mum made me go to church as a kid every xmas.. child abuse :) until I became a teenager and more outspoken about my non belief.. then I was free from the bollocks the minister preached! I'm sick of xtians hav

Comment by emma bailie on November 29, 2012 at 1:03pm

I'm sick of xtians having a go when it suits them!!

Comment by James Cox on November 29, 2012 at 1:04pm

The christians DO NOT OWN XMAS!

The christians DO NOT OWN AMERICA!

The christians DO NOT OWN HONESTY!

The christians DO NOT OWN HISTORY!

Was that too loud?

Comment by kris feenstra on November 29, 2012 at 3:13pm

"The christians DO NOT OWN..."

This represents a huge chunk of my grievance with Christianity. I can accept that our views differ, and the way we want to live our may lives differ as well. I can accept that they may or may not approve of my values and that they are free to argue their positions publicly, privately and politically to the extent that democracy allows. The thing that gets my hackles up is the idea that they own words, concepts, ideas or traditions as one might own copyright or trademark.

Comment by Rocky Oliver (LotusGeek) on November 29, 2012 at 3:51pm

@Cody - the start of your post ("...the one day a year they go to church...") reminded me of a great term for those types of churchgoers. I actually learned this from my UU minister (yes, I'm an out-of-the-closet atheist who is also a Unitarian Universalist). He called those type of congregants "CEO members", with CEO standing for Christmas (and) Easter Only.

As for me and my family, we definitely celebrate the Winter Holidays (and yes, we often refer to it as "Christmas", since it is such a part of our lexicon). We all tend to say "Happy Holidays" to others rather than Merry Xmas, and the cards we send out all say something to the affect of Happy Holidays - no religious connotation whatsoever. My kids were raised to understand the respective histories of the holidays around this time of year (all of the big ones, not just Xmas) - the ones we've mainly covered are Xmas (both protestant and Catholic versions), Hannukah, and Kwanzaa. It was much easier for us to cover these because of our UU fellowship - we cover these during RE (Religious Education, or what is commonly referred to as "Sunday School"). They are taught the history, customs, meanings, etc. of the holidays.

Overall, we mainly focus on the fact that we "celebrate" this time of year to give to others ("charity"), reconnect with loved ones, and spend quality time with those we love. They fully understand that, outside of the name, there's really nothing particularly "religious" about Xmas at all unless you make the effort to infuse it into your celebrations.


Comment by Umbra on November 29, 2012 at 4:19pm

Christmas is at its root a set time where people share with each other. Symbolism is very important to us all and we like to and need to be reminded of things past. For Christians it is the birth of Jesus, for pagans it was winter solstice. Btw. we have the pagans to thank for the pine tree tradition.

So, even atheists celebrate and because everyone is celebrating around the same time we may as well join in. Any excuse to party, dude. Albeit that you will not see a crib under my tree.

Comment by emma bailie on November 29, 2012 at 4:57pm

The CHRISTIANS do not own...... IRELAND! They do try however but atheism is on the rise and slowly but surely, we will beat their outdated values and thinking as people are starting to wake up and realise there's more to life than pie in the sky!

Comment by emma bailie on November 29, 2012 at 5:02pm

Here here @Kris however values?? Like being a decent person? Morals? I learnt all of those from my mother, not from some dissected and ongoing badly interpreted fable.. Xtians tend to think that they received these morals from their badly interpreted teachings from godly people.. they are blind! Deaf! and dare I say stupid!

Comment by matt.clerke on November 29, 2012 at 5:08pm

I still maintain late december is a celebration of the solstice. Christmas is so commercialised it is really just a secular holiday in the west anyway.


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