I am trying to understand the rational behind the catholic church's stance against both abortion and contraception. I understand the abortion issue from their point of view but what is their problem with preventing a sperm from fertilizing an egg? This planet already has in excess of 8 billion people and our natural resources are dwindling away. Population control would seem to be an important concern for our civilization. Abstinence is no longer a valid option in today's modern sexual culture. The policy of non-participation is not realistic in today's society. 

Is the Roman Catholic church's problem with contraception grounded in their holy book? If so, what part of that text is used as a reference?

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Comment by John Kelly on March 1, 2012 at 3:25am

I looked through all the comments, and I didn't see a cross-reference, but I wanted to give you the official reason.  The Encyclical Humane Vitae lays out a specific set of reasons why birth control is not allowed.

Problem.  Any time a Pope writes an encyclical it is the rare time that the Pope has played the infallible ex-cathedra card.  So since Rome thinks it can't err, and that Paul VI was infallible in every word of this document, it can't ever reverse its stance until it can be twisted by a new encyclical that re-interprets it to mean something less hard-line.

Comment by John Kelly on March 1, 2012 at 3:27am

dammit, I forgot the link.  Sorry

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_...

It is pretty easy to read, and pretty short for an encyclical.  Only really a page of text.  It is pretty clear on why they came to that stance in the 60's

Comment by Lewal on March 1, 2012 at 3:32am
Pro-life cult for sure. At my school they would put up little crosses on the school lawn for what I very clearly remember one woman calling "all those poor sweet little dead babies." It was seriously like a... Cult of the Fetus or something.
Comment by Steve on March 1, 2012 at 9:22am

The reason for the opposition to masturbation is that until the invention of the microscope (and even later) people didn't know how conception worked. Despite having to have some evidence that people could inherit traits from their mother a common early belief was that each sperm contained a fully formed mini-human and that the womb was just an empty vessel to receive it. So wasting sperm was considered killing a full human

Comment by UnTarded on March 1, 2012 at 10:00am

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great

If a sperm is wasted, god gets quite irate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

Comment by Ed on March 1, 2012 at 8:52pm

@ Shelley

"You are allowed to use NFP (natural family planning) because you are using the rythym of a woman's body..."

So how is NFP not the same as the so called rhythm method?

Comment by Shelley Kersey on March 2, 2012 at 10:09pm

@Ed

The Rhythm Method uses only the basic knowledge of the reproductive cycle to guess when a woman is fertile and when she isn't. This would mean that you'd go by the "typical" fertile time of a woman ovulating on day 14 of her cycle (roughly 2 weeks into her cycle) and basing that on a woman's cycle being 28 days.  This of course is not the case for many if not most women. Not all women ovulate on day 14 or even have a 28 day cycle. So this is useless and fails most of the time.

NFP uses more detailed info of each woman's cycle to determine ovulation. There are different versions of this method you can use but these are the basics. A woman's morning temperature will vary throughout her cycle. She takes it at the same time every morning before getting out of bed and thus altering her temp. and before ovulation it is in one small range, only varying a little. Then at ovulation it spikes do to the progesterone levels rising to sustain a pregnancy. So once you see a spike for at least 3 days you know you've ovulated and if you're trying to avoid pregnancy you know it's safe to have sex. The temps stay up until the approaching menstrual cycle and then they drop back to "normal".  I put that in quotes cuz not all women are the same.  That's why you have to have several months of charts to get to know your particular normal ranges. The other fertility sign that's charted with or without temps is (sorry tmi) a woman's mucus. The mucus near the cervix changes throughout her cycle also. I won't go into detail there, just know that she can check it and know when she has more fertile mucus and then knows when she should have sex to get pregnant or avoid sex to avoid pregnancy. Once ovulation has occurred the fertile mucus goes back to non-fertile. Also with technology these days a woman can use a ovulation kit that will test her level of a hormone called the luteinizing hormone to let her know ovulation is imminent.

All this is to say that if you chart your fertile/non-fertile stages then you know when you're likely to get pregnant and can thus plan accordingly.  Yes, as you can tell it's time consuming and tedious but if you're willing to do it it does work. If you have an irregular cycle though it can be a pain and if you don't want to get pregnant it can mean fewer days available for sex. Hope this helps.

Comment by 52X Max GT on March 4, 2012 at 4:10am

@Shelley

So basically, those methods are allowed by the catholic church because they are loopholes?

I guess that makes sense, at least by the standards of people who believe God himself had to sacrifice to himself, to make a loophole of his own rule to allow us into heaven... or something

Comment by Shelley Kersey on March 4, 2012 at 8:55pm
@52X

I get your logic. I guess the thinking is the difference is that you can only use what god inherently gave you & cannot use something man invented to get around it. Just giving the apologist's point and if such a god existed then I'd agree with them but viewing it outside the religious window the whole thing is crazy.
Comment by Deborah Moreno on March 5, 2012 at 10:48pm

As I remember from so, so long ago the phase ''go forth and be fruitful" had something to do with the church's original reason for this whole mess. The past posters have all mentioned reasons given for the church's objection to all forms of birth control. Sex is for procreation, BIG catholic families, and all childern are a blessing from God. I think the current issue the church is having with birth control is that the membership has fallen substansually in the last decade. With 98% of catholic women using BC they need those BIG catholic families.

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