... But you're not like those other atheists!

So I'm not a closeted atheist. I bring up my atheism almost as much as my friends bring up their Xtianity. I know because I try and keep the ratio even. This means I mention my atheism almost five times daily. It is an absurd amount for someone who is not politically significant or really even socially relevant. I'm a half Hispanic mother of 1 in Texas. I register so low on the sociopolitical scale that I may as well be mute.

Screaming into a hurricane, that's what it feels like.

I'm nice though, I mean as a general rule my kitchen is always open. I bake and feed friends, I always have an open ear and a genuine interest in what people have to say. I don't insult the religious who don't need insulting.

So I have often gotten this strange pass on being an atheist, "Yeah, you're an atheist, but you're nice, not like (Dawkins/ Hitchens/ Internet Atheists)."

Of course I'm not like Dawkins or Hitchens, those men are/were scientifically minded professional speaking philosophers of the movement. I'm a mother in Texas who is just finishing up my Sophomore year in college! My major is liberal arts, not biology or theology.

BUT, (I usually tell them) I agree with Dawkins so much I'm practically a fanatic. I think the man is so well spoken that it moves me like poetry. Hitchens work riles me up, I may not agree with everything he says but it isn't a requirement to assign your entire brain over to a single philosophy as an atheist. His work was amazing, his arguments were well thought out and never pussy-footed around the issue.

As for internet atheists, I show them what happens when you Google: Carol Foley Atheist. Yeah, that's me. I'm here, on the internet, being an atheist where the internet can see me.

I'm an atheist but I'm not a raging douche canoe. Big deal.

My friends are Xtian but they aren't bigoted small-minded hate-mongers. 

The difference is my behavior makes me a good atheist.

Their behavior makes them terrible Xtians.

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Comment by CJoe on January 13, 2012 at 4:14pm

"...but I'm not a raging douche canoe." <---love that! >_/p>

The lovely thing about the internet is that it gives us all a voice. Go you!!! The terrible thing about the internet is it gives us all a voice. It's amazing to me that Xians disown or turn a blind eye to fanatics who insult the hell out of atheists (literally lol) and threaten their lives (in the name of Jebus) or reveal the mirth they would feel at their eternal torment. Nice.

Keep it up, Carol :) We like good atheists!

Comment by Steve on January 13, 2012 at 4:18pm

I find Dawkins to be very polite. Forceful yes, but polite. I've never seen him he really insult someone.

Hitchens, does insult people and I think it's often hilarious. It takes both approaches, depending on the situation. Some people deserve it

Comment by Kairan Nierde on January 13, 2012 at 11:10pm

You say you might as well be mute but you are clearly making an impression on those around you by being out.  That's a wonderful thing!

Comment by cameron penney on January 14, 2012 at 12:40am

I had the same issue the other day with a friend I had not seen in a while. He asked my if would join him at his church on Sunday. I said no thank you, I am an Atheist. And he said "I think you a good person though". That is the kind of thinking that has to stop. I said "I am a good person because it is the right thing to do; not because it will get me in to heaven".

Comment by Kir Komrik on January 14, 2012 at 3:42am

Hey, you rock! Your sentiments speak to me - kk

Comment by Michael on January 14, 2012 at 7:34am

"raging douche canoe" LOL!

That made the entire post for me.

In my experience most atheists aren't really mean, they just don't pull any punches when it comes to irrational beliefs, and I don't think we should.

Atheism tiptoed around religion for far too long and I am extremely happy to see it confronted so passionately today. Most Christians are unable to accept any criticism of their beliefs and they have an utterly mind numbing persecution complex. To be honest I love to see them squirm intellectually, you can almost see the cognitive dissonance seeping out of their ears.

Comment by Boatman on January 14, 2012 at 1:55pm

"Their behavior makes them terrible Xians".

THAT is the one of the neatest compliments I have ever seen one person pay to another.

Comment by Barry Eckert on January 14, 2012 at 9:59pm

I don't insult the religious who don't need insulting.

Glad you know some of those. Pretty rare in these parts, especially in state government.

I love the "raging douche canoe" thing too :) Pretty funny


In my experience most atheists aren't really mean, they just don't pull any punches when it comes to irrational beliefs, and I don't think we should.

And that is precisely what the Christians usually call "arrogance". Is it really arrogant to take the view that the superstitious are deluded, and then show them exactly how that is so? I usually consider it a public service. :)

Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on January 15, 2012 at 1:52am

I think your sentiments pertain to a lot of people on this site.

If a xian is nice, I will be nice back, but if they want to 'discuss' religion, I am only to happy.

I think Christopher Hitchens gave me a backbone - absolutely nobody phased Hitch. Dawkins is knowledge and sweet, just didn't have the same punch as Hitch, but both men highlighted Atheism to the world - what an achievement.

I also think xians are becoming more vehement because of the internet - we are 'teaming up' from around the world, and the spotlight of youtube and sites naming pedophiles in the catholic and jehovas witness camps is shining on all the evil that xians, evangelicals, and sundry charlatans are up to. The likes of Westboro, crying evangelics rip off merchants, and xians are getting a tad worried, laying a lot of stuff on Atheists that just don't belong to us. No morals, no ethics, rude, arrogant, cruel and inhumane people blahdiblah.

For me, it is too large a proportion of xians that do behave badly, if not illegally.

We are not a band of pedophiles, we don't make money out of talking 'to the dead', etc. we don't have fake charities etc.

We wouldn't have to say we are Atheists at all if everybody kept to themselves, and did the right thing.

Barry is right, we just aren't pulling any punches - and yes, that is what they call arrogant.

Comment by cameron penney on January 16, 2012 at 12:11am

The first time I read Hitchens, I was amazed. His work made me realize that I do not have just hide the fact that I am an Atheist.


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