In the April 7, 2011 debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig regarding whether or not objective morality is possible without god, Craig refused to accept that an objective morality of this type is possible; in fact, he said that if there were no god, objective morality would be impossible. He believes this to such an extent that he believes the use of the terms moral or morality must be reserved to those actions based on belief in and adherence to a god – specifically, the god of the… Continue
Added by Brian Bridson on April 10, 2011 at 5:38pm —
I figure this is a decent enough place to post my leaving of religion, especially since it might help the people here get to know me better.
My dislike of church started young. I was never really brought, and although my mother was raised catholic and my dad in a church-ridden area, I never heard anything but hatred of the tithing system growing up--we apparently had a few churches, that when they began going, asked immediately how much of my parent's income could be promised… Continue
Added by Jonel Burge on December 17, 2010 at 8:44pm —
From Martin S Pribble
"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean… Continue
Added by Martin Pribble on November 10, 2010 at 7:41pm —
I have few other articles that I need to complete and publish, but I want to skip them over for a while to answer an important point that a pious christian is trying to ask me via the Amazon Book review I made for, "The god Delusion", a book by R. Dawkins.
Are people good only because they strictly follow a Religion? This was the topic of chapter Six of Dawkins', “The god Delusion”, which he titled exactly, “The Roots of… Continue
Added by V John Merc on September 16, 2010 at 4:54pm —
Painting of King Soloman, 1872 or 1874, by Simeon Solomon, British 1840 - 1905. Continue
Gift of William B. O'Neal, to the National Gallery of Art, Washington, DC 1995.52.170
Not on View - Public Domain…
Added by D R Hosie on September 4, 2010 at 5:30pm —
I wrote a blog post, a few months back, that wondered if nature's prime directive (survival) could be used as the basis for morality. Since then, I've realized that I missed the most important point of all: survival of our species depends on cooperation. Survival is the purpose of cooperation, so survival is still the basis of morality but the operative principle is cooperation. This is because we are intelligent social animals who can choose to cooperate instead of fight or kill. Nature may be… Continue
Added by Atheist Exile on August 9, 2010 at 9:00pm —
There is an obvious error in the The Problem of Evil (aka Theodicy), and I'm surprised more philosophers and theologians don't point it out. I'm sure most people on this forum are familiar with it, but just in case, here's a thumbnail sketch:
God can't be all good, all powerful and all knowing at the same time because the world is full of suffering, and if he was all of those things he would stop it.
Actually, there is no contradiction. The error comes with the definition of… Continue
Added by Henry Ruddle on August 8, 2010 at 4:20pm —
This is a post I wrote recently on my blog, http://www.teenageatheist.com , I figured it would be interesting to get some feedback from an atheist community.
A common Christian response to atheism is: "What's the point of being moral… Continue
Added by Raithie on August 5, 2010 at 2:54pm —
Many of us have all heard the claim that God/Jesus, as the source of all goodness is the only teacher we have about how to be good, and humanity on its own is a despicable race of
creatures. So, here’s what I don’t really understand.
What motivation do you have to be good all the time if you believe to your heart of hearts that God will always forgive you? Murder? Rape? No problem, just confess, say your magic chant, maybe shed some tears Continue
and pledge to service as a…
Added by Whitney B. on June 14, 2010 at 10:30am —
Definitely not the religious books- not me.
So then why do I have compassion? Why is it that the majority of the people around me are compassionate also? Why is it that we rally behind our gay brothers and sisters who are in the minority when most religious books want them dead?
If the basis of our morality is the opinion of the majority, then, as pointed out in another blog post just before this one, wasn't Hitler correct in murdering the Jews? The US and the rest of the… Continue
Added by Chetan D on April 2, 2010 at 9:46pm —
A Christian mentioned to me a few days ago that it's disgusting how Allah tells Muslims to kill all non-believers in the Koran. I would just like to point out, if for no one's benefit but my own, that the bible says exactly the same thing. Christianity is a religion as violent as the Islamic faith, whether its adherents share that violent tendency or not, and it is absurd for Christians to say their's is a "religion of love."
The book of… Continue
Added by kelltrill on January 25, 2010 at 10:00pm —
Check out the link at the bottom of this post to listen to the interview from Fresh Air today on NPR:
Humanism--the belief that ethics and morality can be vested in rationality, rather than a supernatural deity--might sound like a departure from faith communities and culture, but according to Greg Epstein, it doesn't have to be.
In his new book, Good Without God: What A Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe, Greg Epstein responds to challenges against humanism that spring… Continue
Added by Chelsea on December 23, 2009 at 11:00pm —
Nature is, as Alfred Lord Tennyson said, “red in tooth and claw”. It has no morals. Morality is a human construct that usually reflects our social norms. As such, morality is formed by an amalgam of influences from family, religion, culture, evolution and the arts. This amalgam of influences varies from person to person and is relative to our exposure to, and experience with, these influences.
Almost half the human race subscribes to a religion that claims morality is objective… Continue
Added by Atheist Exile on November 27, 2009 at 5:21am —
As I will argue, below, if a prerequisite of “true” Christianity is to follow Jesus, then nobody is a true Christian. The very reason for this also reveals our tacit acknowledgement that religious morality is subordinated to our innate human morality.
Nobody in their right mind, Christian or not, would fully obey Jesus. Do you know any Christians who abandon their worldly goods and rely on God to feed, clothe and shelter them? Of course not! But that's what Jesus… Continue
Added by Atheist Exile on October 16, 2009 at 10:00pm —
This was originally posted over at my blog, Cubik's Rube
If you want to know what I think of the Atheist's Guide to Christmas, a book that's just been released, which was put together by the lovely Ariane Sherine
(organiser of the Atheist Bus Campaign
) and which features essays from many of the grooviest godless guys and gals of our time,… Continue
Added by Cubik's Rube on September 29, 2009 at 7:10pm —
One of the BIGGEST mistakes my parents made with me, and one of the reasons I became Atheist, is that they introduced me to "Children's Bibles" and brought me to "Sunday School" and other such "Children's Bible lessons" by the time I was 3 years old. [The preschool they sent me to was actual IN the church they currently go to... and trust me... the teachers would read us "Bible Stories" every school day.] Of course, as a child, I saw nothing wrong with what they were doing. Being like most… Continue
Added by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on September 3, 2009 at 3:46pm —
Cameron Todd Willingham has been executed for Arson that resulted in the death of three of his little girls. In a review of the evidence from the fire, an independent expert claims that there is no reason to call this fire an arson. His statements about the Texas State Fire Marshall were more acute, The state fire marshal on the case, Beyler concluded in his report, had "limited understanding" of fire science. The fire marshal "seems to be wholly without any realistic understanding of fires… Continue
Added by Gaytor on August 26, 2009 at 12:29pm —
Morality, Religion and Terrorism
Ex-President George W. Bush was wrong when he said the terrorists have hijacked Islam. In fact, it is Islam that has hijacked the terrorists. Bush and those who agree with him insist that the terrorists aren’t “true” Muslims; that violence in the name of Allah is counter to the Quran and Islam. Continue
Examine that sentiment closely: compare it to what the Quran actually says. The Quran does have a paltry few verses…
Added by Atheist Exile on August 20, 2009 at 1:30am —
Morality has been argued as an absolute or a relative endeavor. The religious would have you believe in morals that require blind obedience and others, such as myself, would argue that the moral action is dependent on circumstances. I dare to generalize this deep field of philosophy down to a blind following of rules that equate to morals versus a thinking man's gambit.
The common question from a theist to the atheist is "where do you get your morals?" Of course, the theist is handed… Continue
Added by Reggie on July 26, 2009 at 12:35am —
This discussion got me thinking:
I have been having some trouble reconciling something in my mind. I do NOT think we need god(s) to keep us moral, but I DO think we need government and laws to do so. Someone once challenged me on this and said I may as well be an anarchist. I couldn't come up with a satisfactory response to explain why that was false at that moment.
Finally, this morning, it dawned… Continue
Added by Matthew on July 24, 2009 at 12:07pm —