Refutations of Pascal’s Wager
and the Ontological Argument
When debating a theist about the existence of God, there are two arguments that many of them tend to rely on as last ditch efforts. These are Pascal’s Wager and the Ontological Argument. However, neither is valid because they both have been refuted.
Pascal’s wager, devised by Blaise Pascal, states that it is better to believe in God and be wrong than to not believe in God and be wrong. If one believes in God… Continue
Added by Andrew the Fluffer on February 19, 2009 at 8:54pm —
Moderator: We're here today to debate the hot new topic, evolution versus Intelligent Des---
(Scientist pulls out baseball bat.)
Moderator: Hey, what are you doing?
(Scientist breaks Intelligent Design advocate's kneecap.)
Intelligent Design advocate: YEAAARRRRGGGHHHH! YOU BROKE MY KNEECAP!
Scientist: Perhaps it only appears that I broke your kneecap. Certainly, all the evidence points to the hypothesis I broke your kneecap. For example,… Continue
Added by Andrew the Fluffer on February 19, 2009 at 3:02pm —
A professor at the University of Vermont, Nicholas Gotelli, got an invitation to debate one of the clowns at the Discovery Institute. Here's what they wrote.
Dear Professor Gotelli,
I saw your op-ed in the Burlington Free Press and appreciated your support of free speech at UVM. In light of that, I wonder if you would be open to finding a way to provide a campus forum for a debate about evolutionary science and intelligent design. The Discovery Institute, where I work, has… Continue
Added by Morgan Matthew on February 19, 2009 at 6:00am —
Prof. Nicholas Gotelli
, a scientist in the biology department of the University of Vermont has a wit sharp enough to cut yourself on.
He was solicited (yes solicited) by the Discovery Institute
(A don't-think-tank of creationists masquerading as a serious research institute) to set up a debate at his campus. The admittedly… Continue
Added by Dave R on February 19, 2009 at 4:22am —
So, our good friend Bp. Richard Williamson has agreed to review the evidence.
I can only state just how relieved I am that the esteemed Bp. Williamson is reviewing the years of documented evidence collated by various historians to validated their findings. Arrogance and ignorance: You're doing it really, really well.
Added by Dave R on February 19, 2009 at 3:50am —
1. Homosexuality is forbidden. Punishment is death by beheading.
2. Illegal Drugs are forbidden. Punishment is death by beheading.
3. Women are forbidden from attending school. Punishment is by the Mutuwa, caning, and send you back to your male leader.
4. Women are forbideen from committing adultery. Punishment is death by stoning.
5. If a woman is raped, she is guilty of committing adultery. See above.
6. Women are… Continue
Added by Sophie on February 18, 2009 at 4:27pm —
Six states have passed a law banning atheists from holding any public office. The law also prevents atheists from testifying as witnesses in court. Here's a link to the article:
This is absolute bull shit.
Added by Andrew the Fluffer on February 18, 2009 at 2:18pm —
A few weeks back I posted a blog
on how theists fear of the unknown is what causes them to oppose science. The author I pulled the source material from, Paddy Shannon, points out that reason and logic are pushing superstition out the window, but leaving behind an empty room. "What we need to do … is recognize the emotional vacuum this is creating, and strive to fill it, before… Continue
Added by Johnny on February 18, 2009 at 2:09pm —
I had kind of a cool experience yesterday.
I was sitting waiting for my physics discussion to start and I had brought Dawkins' "Unweaving the Rainbow" along to pass the time. From behind me I heard a voice "so...are you reading Dawkins for a class?" I turned around to the guy sitting in the row behind me, who looked like he had been a bit nervous to ask me. I replied, "no, just for fun. I like his stuff."
It was great the way his expression completely changed and he… Continue
Added by Sniz on February 18, 2009 at 1:39pm —
(( A re-post of a blog entry I posted elsewhere a while back ))
Yesterday, a couple of co-workers were talking about current events, and one of them said ‘Well, there are two sides to every story, and I’ll listen to them both.’
This got me thinking of the assumptions inherent in such a statement, and the fallacies that can and often do appear in such discussions.
The first and most obvious potential fallacy is right in the statement itself. Two sides. Either-or.… Continue
Added by Dave G on February 18, 2009 at 12:36pm —
I was doing my normal morning rounds on the internet when i found this....
"By Bonnie Erbe, Thomas Jefferson Street blog.
Can it be constitutional to exclude from public service or service as a witness in… Continue
Added by Mike on February 18, 2009 at 12:35pm —
It fascinates me to speak to religious people, in any shape or size, because I feel like I am missing the ability to believe in a god. I believe instead in the limits of human imagination ad attribute most of modern day speculation about the beginning of the universe to this limitation. We are creatures bound to this four dimensional world and we cannot think outside these four dimensions. Why is it impossible to picture infinity, timelessness, spacelessness, non-existence..? This weakness in… Continue
Added by M on February 18, 2009 at 9:07am —
A few days ago, I went with a friend to a public lecture on global warming at the local university. I sat beside a friend of mine and rolled my neck a bit to stretch it out.
"Eww. Does your neck always do that?" She said, mildly in disgust.
"Do what?" I replied.
"Make that sound?" The sound she was referring to was the sound that my neck has made for years, best demonstrated by a sixteen-wheeler driving over bubble wrap.
"It has for a while now, why… Continue
Added by Jake on February 18, 2009 at 9:07am —
I am an atheist because it logically makes sense. I am an atheist because science matches it. I trust experiments that have been correctly conducted and are unbiased. I am an atheist because it is the only thing that gives me hope that a secular America (blasphemous, I know) would be full of sensible people. I am so tired of this religious shit. Religion is used to manipulate millions of young and old thoughts, dreams, hopes, and expectations. Religion is only a tool of control. Nothing more,… Continue
Added by Aurie Elizabeth on February 17, 2009 at 7:08pm —
Added by Samantha on February 16, 2009 at 11:30pm —
The size of the Universe...Fasinating.
Added by Roxy641 on February 16, 2009 at 11:22pm —
A direct message from Daves not home
I can only imagine that you're becoming increasingly inundated with mail of all kinds, from criticism and hate to props and suggestions of how to make this better. So I'm somewhat reluctant to put my note onto the "suggestion pile" but I have so many "atheist ambitions" that I feel I must say something.
A thought that… Continue
Added by Morgan Matthew on February 16, 2009 at 5:00pm —
DON'T PANIC!!! 25th May, 2009 is Towel Day.
Added by Roxy641 on February 16, 2009 at 4:37pm —
I received the following email yesterday:
Read my reply after it....
This seems a bit far fetched, but I guess it's true…
Subject: FW: PLEASE READ BEFORE WATCHING the ATTACHMENT
READ BEFORE WATCHING -
Most see airport security as a pain. Some feel violated. When you watch this clip, you'll understand why they want your cell phone… Continue
Added by Darkstar on February 16, 2009 at 6:30am —
It strikes me as odd, the fact that so many people claim they need religion because it gives them hope.. it saves them from feeling alone. Is this such a horrible notion that you need to convince yourself of a divine being, supervising your every move? I have spent the last few hours going from feeling sad and alone, to being happy and appreciating the people i love.. I did not need a god to push me from one state of mind to another, nor did i fear being alone enough to run next door and wake… Continue
Added by M on February 16, 2009 at 1:21am —