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Free Will vs Gods plan, or not

Started this discussion. Last reply by Nelson Apr 22, 2011. 14 Replies

so one of the reasons atheists say god doesn't exist is that he has no referance to time. so he is both in the past and in the future (with no beginning :p ) so that means he knows the future so that…Continue

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Berty replied to Christopher McGuire's discussion 'My new favorite argument'
"my favourite argument in this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1a1Ek-HD0"
May 15, 2011
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Apr 25, 2011
Berty replied to Berty's discussion 'Free Will vs Gods plan, or not'
"a person who has no higher brain functionality : no feeling of free will at all, just alive a person with degraded mental capacity: slight feeling of free will people with stronger feelings of free will, will be more likely to uphold there moral…"
Apr 22, 2011
Berty replied to Berty's discussion 'Free Will vs Gods plan, or not'
"indeed, self-reflection is needed for the illusion of free will. i think the illusion of free will is more of a gradient. its not complete free will or none at all. the 2 extremes can be shown like this: max illusion of free will: humans,…"
Apr 22, 2011
Berty replied to Berty's discussion 'Free Will vs Gods plan, or not'
"1/ good point :) 2/ can you feel guilt without feeling responsible? hmm maybe so, you feel guilty for people in Africa that are suffering starvation, but its not directly your fault, maybe we feel guilty because we can help them. so i agree :) 3/…"
Apr 22, 2011
Berty replied to Berty's discussion 'Free Will vs Gods plan, or not'
"i agree on the natural selection part for me its just a way of speech but i understand that people (not you) that don't understand natural selection thorough enough could be confused by my way of expression when you're drunk you have a…"
Apr 22, 2011
Berty replied to Berty's discussion 'Free Will vs Gods plan, or not'
"evolution can do something because of something else   if a random mutation causes something that on its turn causes (something else) less death then this mutation will be more likely to survive   so when you have a mutation that gives you…"
Apr 21, 2011
Berty replied to Berty's discussion 'Free Will vs Gods plan, or not'
"ok some reaction: 1/ you cannot disprove God because he doesn't have a reference in time or any measure in our universe for that matter. 2/ indeed but feeling responsible is a condition for guilt, right? 3/ indeed, everything works with chances…"
Apr 21, 2011
Berty replied to Sophie's discussion 'Would You Eat Lab-Grown Meat?'
"I totally agree but I still think there would be some morons that would oppose"
Apr 20, 2011
Berty commented on Horacio Martinez's blog post 'Just Another Reason I Don't Believe'
"they were talking about legalizing drugs to have more taxes and to reduce the killings but i don't think the idea was implemented though   would you agree to legalize drugs if it stops all that suffering?"
Apr 20, 2011
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"omg somebody call 911 that guy is having an epilepsy seizure :p"
Apr 20, 2011
Berty replied to Sophie's discussion 'How many of you think that a historical Jesus never existed?'
"i think he existed, but not with any magical powers maybe just a little high on charisma :)   i think they found some evidence of his existence, like the cave where his body was put after the crucifixion. and the robe he was…"
Apr 20, 2011
Berty replied to Sophie's discussion 'Would You Eat Lab-Grown Meat?'
"i would eat it   vegitarians should eat it cause it has no conflicts but would there be ppl that think its wrong to create something that tastes excacly the same as a living thing.   for instance: suppose a part of the poppulation is…"
Apr 20, 2011
Berty replied to Sophie's discussion 'A science only city'
"i would say: where is it, how do i get this and how much for an appartment :p   i think it would survive. it would also be alot more efficient i think. less lost time, less arguments   although if it goes really good it might attract a lot…"
Apr 20, 2011
Berty replied to Misty: Baytheist Living!'s discussion 'Windows 7 and touch screens.' in the group Technophiles
"did you try the vista drivers? cause windows 7 and vista have very similar software architectures   i got a dell latitude xt2 and the support from windows 7 for touch is alot beter then with vista larger buttons, easy windows resize, ..."
Apr 20, 2011
Berty replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'Question, especially for guys!' in the group Single Atheists
"not for me i do the same thing :p"
Apr 20, 2011

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