"This is why the order/disorder perspective doesn't work. It's distracting and confusing.
Unseen, appearances can be deceiving. So can the language we use,eh? anyways, there's order and disorder in most everything, but, as far as we…"
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marilyne Hansen replied to John Kelly's discussion 'There has to be an absolute morality'"Christian, I don't know if you're serious or not, but what the *&^%$ is the 'argument from queerness'?
Also, what do you mean by 'anti-realist' in regards to morality?
I really think the order/disorder…"
marilyne Hansen replied to John Kelly's discussion 'There has to be an absolute morality'"Rhetorics is most useful in obfuscation. Case in point-William Lane Craig's debates.
I recently heard him say in one of his podcasted teaching classes, to a group of avid students, that he likes to think of God as having existed…"
marilyne Hansen replied to John Kelly's discussion 'There has to be an absolute morality'"So, by 'order', do you mean 'reality'? As in the 'order' of the universe and nature? If I understand you, I think I agree. I take the notion of morality a step further-or perhaps sideways- but I agree that the more…"
marilyne Hansen replied to John Kelly's discussion 'There has to be an absolute morality'"If the foundation of morality is love, and love is an irrational emotion (I'm thinking of abused wives and beaten children who love their parents), what does that say about our morals?
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marilyne Hansen replied to John Kelly's discussion 'There has to be an absolute morality'"Oh, you're going to hate me.
I won't argue with your def. of value, but it does have other definitions-it's a verb, and a noun after all.....but I disagree with the other assertions. I can value and have values based on utter lies and…"
marilyne Hansen replied to John Kelly's discussion 'There has to be an absolute morality'"John, can you give an example of an unbiased valuation? Even theoretically, the very act of 'valuing' is dependent on a brain to interpret/concieve/assess etc- all of which occur within a biased framework (experience). What does it even…"
marilyne Hansen replied to John Kelly's discussion 'There has to be an absolute morality'"Well, ultimately it comes down to the fact that value is subjective. I don't have to accord any value to filet mignon or sewage. They may have a value in some context, but isn't that just another way of saying "it's…"
marilyne Hansen replied to John Kelly's discussion 'There has to be an absolute morality'"Your first sentence is incorrect. The 'value' of something isn't the product of its properties, it's a subjective opinion each of us places on that something based on how we percieve it, regardless of its innate…"
marilyne Hansen replied to Hank Hell's discussion 'What would you replace the bible with if you could?'"Atlas Shrugged. For the morality (what else is there?). As with most things, read in context-as a product of it's author; her experiences and the times (1950's).
I suspect the more vocal detractors haven't read the book, and are only…"
marilyne Hansen replied to Brandon Spokes's discussion 'Atheists are Niggers, Apparently'"Maybe he was crazy. The fact that he called you xyz, instead of 'stupid f'ing atheist' would belie your theory. As an aside, I'm an unapologetic atheist in the buckle of the belt, and my nextdoor neighbor, a fairly famous…"
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