"Unfortunately, as much as I enjoyed that book, it has been debunked and James Frey has admitted it was fictional. Regardless, it had its truth but not experienced exactly the way it was written by Mr. Frey. Oprah was pissed too after she made…"
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the Atheist in 12 step recovery
Started this discussion. Last reply by Matt Martin May 29, 2012. 27 Replies 2 Likes
I have been a member of Narcotics Anonymous for 24 years and have stayed clean for that time. I have always had problems with the need for a Higher Power. My question is how do you (as an atheist)…Continue
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M replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"I just read the book "A Million Little Pieces" by James Frey about recovering from years of horrendous addiction without the 12 Steps. Amazing book. And congratulations to you, by the way. "
Courtney Hammett replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"Well, you could replace the need for gods with the need for personal development or reaching of goals. Whatever is meaningful to you. How about mindfulness?"
James Cox replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"Dear Folks:
I started writing a 12 step program for nerds once, but never finished it. A few suggestions:
a) I am powerless to be normal and need the help of other nerds to seek 'normality'.
b) I must appologize to everyone I might have…"
William Brown replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"Like I have said in my earlier post, the underlinning basis of the NA program is the application of principles in ones life, by doing that, you do address some of those psychological factors that you are refering to Matt. I have never had the…"
Karen Lollis replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"@Adrienne, I was hoping someone would bring this perspective.
I don't want to discount Ken's experience - serious kudos for your success, Ken! But I sort of think you could have done it without this particular group.
I spent quite a bit of…"
Matt Martin replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"I've been a clean and sober member of NA for 12+ years. I came into the program agnostic, went to school, studied psychology, physiology, became atheist at 5 years clean, worked in the field... I can tell you that "God" has…"
William Brown replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"I am also involved with NA, and have always had a problem with the whole god thing that is inherent(needless to say bias view point) in the literature. I do use a "power greater than", and that would be the principals contained…"
Kairan Nierde replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"I was in al-anon and it helped for a while. Then I hit the same road block. For a while, I tried imagining the higher power as Wisdom, sometimes found in the literature, meetings, and small personal insights. That worked alright but…"
cameron penney replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"This is difficult for me to answer. I do not have a need for a higher power. When you get away from that kind of thinking, it truly liberates you."
"Thanks for the suggested reading Barry."
"How about 'requirement for reliance on a higher power'? Does that make more sense?"
John Kelly replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'"Oh there was one being run in ballard seattle last year. Maybe it is a straggler program."
Dale Headley replied to ken sherry's discussion 'the Atheist in 12 step recovery'" "...implicit need for a higher power"?"
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