I have been a member of Narcotics Anonymous for 24 years and have stayed clean for that time. I have always had problems with the need for a Higher Power. My question is how do you (as an atheist)…Continue
"My first post here BTW: The problem is that "12-step" recovery means "God-based" recovery. God is mentioned 150+ times in the Big Book. Chapter 4, "to the agnostics," just advises the reader to become God-believing a…"
"Belle, you are so right! Every person I've met since owning my atheism has helped me to balance the strengths of AA and recovery with my inner compass. It is so important for me to hear other people say that we should hesitate before giving all…"
"This Sunday will be our fourth meeting and we will have a business meeting to discuss which modified steps best fit, and the format for the meeting. The other fellow who helped start this put something in place to get us started. And even with the…"
"You made my day Sherstin. I would be grateful if you could let me know how you find the book. I wish I could come to your new meeting and am inspired to consider starting one here in Melbourne. Let me know when you get to a year ok…"
"Hope I hit "reply" in the right place. First, thank you Aim, Ken and Belle for your thoughts (my apologies Aim, I was new to the site and somehow didn't see your reply).
I've ordered "Waiting" and look forward to…"
"Hey Barry I just wanted to thank you again for putting me on to "Waiting" by Marya Hornbacher. It is such a beautifully written book. I read it just about daily and am very grateful to you for letting me know about it. I hope all is well…"
"Hi Sherstin. I stopped reading this discussion after a while as there seemed to be a general trend (largely from people who had no experience of AA or NA ) to discredit and criticize 12 step recovery. I am still a committed NA member who is a…"
""How do you, as an atheist, find peace amid the struggles and suffering of life?"
I've applied deductive reasoning skills throughout my sobriety.
When I'm going through anything difficult, I look at the fact that…"
"Hello. I'm brand new to the site, and want to add some thoughts and questions. First, I'm very interested to know if Ken has any updates or insights since writing the original post?
I've been going to AA for awhile, sober 10 months. I…"
"That was always my problem with AA and NA. I never could do things by the book and as a result I felt I was looked down upon. I realized early on that I needed to learn some things from them but I didn't want to be going to meetings…"
"@Belle - you might be surprised what the right kind of love can do for a person. Pain that is worked through becomes a strength, I think. I agree that you have to do 90% of the work yourself. Discipline, strength, self-reliance and…"
"@Belle - I think we all need something outside ourselves. We're not meant to be stuck away and isolated. I've read a lot about finding "meaning" by working with a wider network of people on some kind of project. …"
"There is zero science behind AA . It's methods haven't changed since their inception in 1937 . AA is a cult that is probably causing more harm than good , and it's entrenchment in the mainstream as a treatment for dependency and…"
"According to A.A, if you're not continuously sober, working the 12 steps, have found God, working with the new comer, and consistently going to meetings, you're not truly sober.
The majority of the fellowship considers sober alcoholics…"
"I wouldn't be so quick to say that the program works.
The evidence says otherwise.
If it "worked," the success rate would be higher.
That said, I'll have 30 years sober on Halloween.
I did A.A for the first 19 years.