"What if there's nothing to gain? This wager assumes the Christain god, and assumes that people have souls to go to an (assumed) afterlife. So what if there's a god but no souls? I've been whating to throw that in some theists face."
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Jean Smith Jun 6, 2010. 23 Replies 0 Likes
Did you pass by the wager argument? an argument made by Blaise Pascal... A bet on God's existence... hmmm... just a thought to ponder.DOES GOD EXIST?YES -> if not exist, finite loss, if exist,…Continue
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Question for the atheists...Is it really true that you think we are just food for the worms?SO is it ok for you, that when you die, your body will be thrown into a dump site?Anyway, it don't possess…Continue
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Mario Rodgers replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"The problem I have with Christianity that I didn't recognize when I was a Christian myself is this whole nonsense idea of "get out of hell" free card. Well it's not really free. The price is single-mindedness and the fate of…"
Mario Rodgers replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"What if their "true God" really isn't the true God? What if the true God is a god nobody's ever even thought of in a million years and he's pissed that nobody's discovered him and worshiped him? XD"
Janice Andrews replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"First, let's address the issue of faith, because I believe that it's at the very heart of the matter. Let's look at how fundamentalists reach their conclusions about the world, and why they claim to know what is essentially the…"
Nelson replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"i'm sure when you were writing your response you thought it was perfectly reasonable and addressed my critiques. here's why you were wrong to think so.
you know as well as i do that while Catholics, Protestants, Mormons and the rest-…"
Janice Andrews replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"Well, I just had a very lengthy reply about half finished and suddenly lost it. Okay, to start again, in answer to your first comment, regarding meeting a 'fundamental definition of Christian' the biggest problem is that there is no one…"
Nelson replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"i just mean a fundamental definition of "Christian" that most people would recognize; the acceptance of Jesus as your savior, of his sacrifice on the cross as a redemptive act done to save your soul from hell. by this very simple…"
Janice Andrews replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"If by Christian you mean a fundamentalist "I believe in Jesus so I've bought my ticket to heaven, but you don't believe in Jesus so you're going to hell", then by that definition of Christian, I'm not. I'm not a…"
Nelson replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"so then you're not a Christian despite what your profile says.
you can't be a Christian. you've just totally rejected that there's a reason for Jesus' sacrifice and in so doing any reason to accept him as your lord and…"
Janice Andrews replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"Yes, I would say that I agree with Hitchens on this point. I somehow can't imagine the following scenario taking place.
God: Ok now, let's take a look at your record. Works... was kind to everyone you met, cured cancer, created world…"
Wesley replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"Pascal dismisses all the other God and afterlife concepts without a thought... His wager is flawed from the beginning. IF he's wrong about the hindu trinity for instance then he could come back as a tick on the ass of a skunk for a couple…"
Gaytor replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"I'm guessing that you and Hitchens would agree on this point.
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Janice Andrews replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"Hi,
A theist here with my two cents on the Wager. I remember when I first studied it, my initial reaction was that, if God does exist, and you just believe in God to 'hedge your bets' so to speak, then isn't it conceivable that God…"
Kirk Holden replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"One point that needs stressing with the arguement from probability is that it is for free riders only. Some signifigant population (of scientists and technoids) must avoid the over reaction to small numbers and keep doing the intellectual heavy…"
Gaytor replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"So God exists, Pascal is right about the God and i'm off to Hell. What's the loss? Can you describe heaven for me in a way that is interesting? I enjoy freedom and living within the constraints of religious judgement for all of eternity…"
Kris Feenstra replied to jam's discussion 'the WAGER argument'"The last few times I've come up against Pascal's Wager, I've gone with the same response, which is only a slight variation on what's been mentioned already.
The basic line of reasoning can be reduced to 'What if God's…"
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Posted on November 24, 2009 at 10:06am 18 Comments 0 Likes
hmmm... I just would like to say that I don't agree when people say all religions are fiction and unscientific. Try to search the net and/or your library for 'scientific' religion. Yes, there is. One scientist provided that a religion supported (at least, with his interpretation) evolution.. hmmm...
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