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Unseen replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"What are you suggesting? that indecision proves a lack of causality and thus no free will? What would changing one's mind prove that is evidence for free will. Of course processes are going on in the subconscious whereby it reacts to new…"
Unseen replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"One word: paragraphing. Paragraphing is evidence of an organized mind.As I've said before several times, we don't NEED proof of determinism since it's necessary to assume it. I just find it strange that while people assume determinism…"
"Hi. This may or may not matter to you but one thing I think about in terms of that view of the subconscious as a kind of decision machine, is what about moments of indecision, and then there is of course changing your mind. Deciding you might have…"
"Hi all. I became an atheist at ten. When I was a teenager, (Which was, like, 30 years ago!), I came to feel as many on here do that every thought, feeling and perception we have could be quantified and thus in a sense dismissed as an illusion. I…"
Unseen replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"I would say that the vast majority of atheists don't believe in ghosts, spirits, souls, or any of their otherworldly occult kin. I'm not invoking any sort of populist fallacy in saying so. I'm simply saying that that puts the burden…"
Pope OoO (Out of Order) replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"Here's the way woo-ites (woobies?) might describe it, in order to support their endeavor of Dualism. Free Will exists (as does soul or spirit) independently of the brain, as a supernatural gift. The body is just an earthly temple in which…"
Unseen replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"As I sit here and ponder this conflict between Determinism and Freewillism (new word for the sake of argument) I see the strident position of both as 'cart before horse' myopic thinking. Neither is a fully developed theory testable and…"
Unseen replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"It used to be "fuzzy logic" or "chaos theory." Some members are invoking chaos theory here as though chaos gives one free will somehow. The only thing that really gives one something like free will (as the word is commonly used)…"
Gregg R Thomas replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"Unseen asks;
"The question is this: WHAT IS FREE WILL ANYWAY?"
FREE WILL is the label used to describe that which we all experience when we decide between A and B. Much like the label "Dark Matter" is used to describe the…"
Pope OoO (Out of Order) replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"Perhaps the supposition is that consciousness can influence quantum level results.
Quantum Will.
(I hope everyone knows I'm kidding.)"
Pope OoO (Out of Order) replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"Hmm. Like poetic license.
I think I am free,
and so I must be."
Unseen replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"Reflexes are something else entirely, but they are reflexes, not choices. When the doctor taps my kneecap and my leg moves, there is no decision making going on.
I have to laugh when anyone brings up randomness or chaos in regards to free will. In…"
Pope OoO (Out of Order) replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"Tooshay. I shall take my leaves now."
James Cox replied to Dizzi90's discussion 'Determinism: Do We Have to?' in the group Atheist Philosophers"Anyone here remember the early 80's plastic balls that were added to the wash, because of their 'quantum effects' could help remove dirt from the wash?
Or the little shield, that could added to the back side of a cell phone to…"
"There is this constant repeated aspect to nature of dualities. One of them, in Chaos theory, is nonlinear order. The blending of order and its opposite. It is the reason that seemingly identical things like blades of grass or even fire engine red…"
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- At 8:55am on February 17, 2010,
Mike Donohoe said…
- Hey. Saw your photo comment. Thought I would point out that I am not actually an atheist myself, (Which does not make me a Christian or the follower of any other established religious assumptions.), hence justification for images of cute cuddliness. =)
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