'lo folks.So I got into it on Twitter with some nut that said "atheists can't have any morality" because he thinks the only logical source for morality is Yahweh (go figure). I'd been meaning to…Continue
"Lukeprog has done some writing about the topic - though it makes WLC out to be some unstoppable juggernaut. As was noted already, folks like Sam Harris et. al. are not debaters. That's not their calling, nor is it for quite a few of us.…"
"The technique others have noted is known as the Gish Gallop, so named after creationist advocate Duane Gish. On its own, it's not easy to counter - it can somewhat be mitigated by having the topic tightly defined, but that isn't always…"
"Robert - you've come to know me well enough by now, that you know I like to reduce things to simple terms, and what you're suggesting, is something I've for years called the "Little Jack Horner" approach.
"No, morality hasn't always been for benefit. For the last few thousand years morality has also incorporated stepping beyond oneself and personal benefit. The capacity for rational thought enabled morality to extend past this to…"
"Morality is a code used to guide one's actions for the purpose of obtaining benefit. I'm quite certain there can be no absolute universal code beyond specifying actions necessary to maintain one's life as similar actions are…"
""atheists can't have any morality" Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") is the differentiation of intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are good (or right) and those that…"
"And, I get my morals from common sense and respect for life - religion, however, including Christianity, would give me the "right" or justify condemnation of others (and burn "witches," shoot doctors who perform…"
""the only logical source for morality is Yahweh"
How so, specifically?
How can one cite Yahweh as a source for morality when there is no real evidence for Yahweh's existence? I think I might be able to cite Jello as a…"
"Zevaeros, the problem is that once again the argument is being misunderstood.
This is an articulate version of the argument:
"Being a good person is the right thing to do because right and wrong are tied to some ultimate spiritual truth. It…"
"I mentioned Confucius in there as predating the gospel authors, as well as a smidgen (smidgin?) of the atrocities put across as good in the bible.
Thanks for the research suggestion. It may be useful background material for a further writeup.
"So I am still trying to get time to get back to my own blog about this, but my take is that morality needs a philosophical basis for the sake of greater inspiration
From a glance, it seems you are trying to find that in covering universal…"