"Hi, Atheism is a lack of religion not a religion in its self, just like not collecting stamps isn't a hobby. In my limited opinion the main difference between us is what it takes to "know" somthing + what constitutes as good evidence.…"
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Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"OK, allowing for the possibility that a million gods could be "wrapped up" together in such a way that the million of them as a whole could be called "The One, True God" is not "merely semantics" to me. It's a…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"Please reconcile."
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"If someone embraced the Helios narrative, then that would mean they believe in Hyperion and Theia as well, who in turn descend from Gaia and Uranus. Each of these would be regarded as "gods" in the sense of "a superhuman being or…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"Well, seeing that even the ancient Greeks did not consider Helios to be The One, True God...
I've given what I consider to be some pretty elementary logical advice: if you have a genuine interest in identifying The One, True God, then you…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"A Thanksgiving message for Kir:
The important point is that when a kid gets a present under the tree on Christmas morning it is because there IS an intelligent being who went to the effort to buy just what the kid wanted or needed, wrapped it,…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"We've reviewed 5 candidates from polytheistic contexts in pursuit of the "true mono theos". I'm not seeing how this could be the most fruitful trajectory for accomplishing the stated task."
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"Something smells fishy here. The Socratic method is a form of discourse in which a series of questions are asked, not to inform the questioner (as you would normally expect from questions), but rather in an attempt to expose underlying assumptions,…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"KK,
If you sincerely want to sort out which God is The One, True God, may I suggest:
Step number 1: Process of elimination. Rule out all the "gods" which never even claimed to be The One, True God. Rule out the "gods"…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"The Osiris worshipers and I both have a Need for Closure.
So, for the sake of expediency, and all important caveats aside, I'll vote for the "role of the A effect" over "the magical professor actually does drop candy…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"Ahh, but that is precisely the rub I wanted to get at. I totally support a supernatural aspect to all of the accounts given so far, just like I support a psychological aspect to them as well. But due to the rhetorical nature of the way your…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"Here is a very relevant personal anecdote related to my own journey of conversion from atheism to Christianity, which is very much tied to KK's Question 3 in particular. This may be more interesting and more helpful than other stuff I've…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"BTW, my attempts to clarify the discussion much more precisely are not a mere distraction. I have specific issues which I would like to address in some of the examples you have already given so far, and getting the wording clear is crucially…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"S and T both sound extremely susceptible to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_the_single_cause."
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"I'm willing to play the Q&A game if and only if I can clearly delineate what answers I'm giving to what questions. What I don't want to do is reach a point down the road where you say, "No you have to accept this conclusion…"
Zachary Harris replied to Kir Komrik's discussion 'How do I know that your god is The One, True God?' in the group Welcome all Adherents"I would definitely want to be aware if I making making such a logical fallacy. If you still believe that I am claiming that P(A and B) > P(A), for some A and B, please state what "A" and "B" you think I am doing that to."
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- To answer legitimate and sincere questions about Biblical Christianity.
- Why you left your religion.
- I left atheism when I was 17 when I had to admit to myself that my denial of God was ultimately based in my heart's unwillingness to bow down to an authoritative King over my life, rather than based on the intellectual arguments that I put forth to assure my conscience that He wasn't there.
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- At 6:48am on January 6, 2013,
Ben wright said… - Hi, Atheism is a lack of religion not a religion in its self, just like not collecting stamps isn't a hobby. In my limited opinion the main difference between us is what it takes to "know" somthing + what constitutes as good evidence. I'd love to tell you what it takes for me to say I "know" somthing, drop me a line if you want. Peace out buddy!
- At 4:49am on November 18, 2012,
Kir Komrik said… Hey Zachary,
Welcome aboard and I look forward to getting to know you - kk
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